Melee to Brawl - characters

[J-PiPe]

From the changes that have been made to make Brawl, as some of you may already noticed, many characters have either been dumbed up or just turned into a steaming pile of hickory smoked horse buttholes. Of course some, but not many, have gotten a second wind for this and are making a comeback. This is just a forum to talk about who got it worse from changing melee into brawl, why, and whatever else might have to do with that. So have fun!  

[Hoboerik]

Ganondorf didn't get it the worst. He's one of my better characters, and he's just a beast.  

[J-PiPe]

Erik of the PWG

Ganondorf didn't get it the worst. He's one of my better characters, and he's just a beast.

And your probably right about that. It's just that he was my tornament main in Melee and I played as him religiously, and yet, when I first played him in Brawl (and every other time I did) I felt like I was riding a short bus...on fire...and made of gonorrhea. (I couldn't take the change over, it killed me...off the stage...alot.)  

[HamsterBlaster]

ganondorf got a lot heavier which isn't a bad thing cuz it makes him harder to be knock of the screen.  

[cmdood]

i think Peach got it pretty bad. they practically halved her second jump  

[J-PiPe]

cmdood

i think Peach got it pretty bad. they practically halved her second jump

not only that, but no more float cancel combos and no more downsmashing rape either. i've been killed by Peach, or seen her kill, by two moves: the usual for character kills f-smash (as long as it's either the frying pan or golf club), and f-air. that's pretty bad compared to Melee  

[Lyn Bei Fong]

I dunno, for whatever reason I'm not good with Sheik in Brawl. I was amazing with him (I don't care that it's technically a 'her') in Melee but I'm just okay with him in the new game. The only noticible change is the down+a. He now kicks down at a slant...it's a move I used a lot in melee and I always screw up when I try it in Brawl.

Also, changing from Sheik to Zelda or visa-versa takes /way/ too long now. In Melee, whenever I wanted to use one of Zelda's moves, I could quickly switch and attack. Now, it takes five or six seconds. At least you can start out with Shiek in this game.

And her final smash isn't that good.

I'm not saying Zelda/Shiek got it worse, but that's the only one I really use enough to talk about. sweatdrop  

[J-PiPe]

Mel Sammeah

I dunno, for whatever reason I'm not good with Sheik in Brawl. I was amazing with him (I don't care that it's technically a 'her') in Melee but I'm just okay with him in the new game. The only noticible change is the down+a. He now kicks down at a slant...it's a move I used a lot in melee and I always screw up when I try it in Brawl.

Also, changing from Sheik to Zelda or visa-versa takes /way/ too long now. In Melee, whenever I wanted to use one of Zelda's moves, I could quickly switch and attack. Now, it takes five or six seconds. At least you can start out with Shiek in this game.

And her final smash isn't that good.

I'm not saying Zelda/Sheik got it worse, but that's the only one I really use enough to talk about. sweatdrop

believe it or not i used to use Shiek too in Melee and used him/her ( mrgreen ) in Brawl so i know where your coming from. and yes, down air being changed into the way it has is more of a letdown than a good thing. what's worse is the fact that one of his/her most useful moves was forward air, and in this it just blows, hard. i haven't seen a kill with that move yet and i doubt i will anytime soon. (somebody will probably prove me wrong with a video in a sec sweatdrop )

actually, i think Zelda got it better in this, to an extent anyway. Zelda and Peach's dash attack launch power basically got switched with eact other, Zelda has more lauch power with more moves and moves that had it in Melee got better in this one. Even her over b move is very useful. (especially on a team with Mr. Game and Watch. down b with G&W, over b three times for a oil spilling instant kill...unless they tech it or something.) as for Sheik, his/her tilts aren't as effective anymore. i don't know if she can still chain-throw, but i doubt it. her smashes have been given alittle more power, sorta, but sacrificing her useful aerials to do so? that was just dumb on their parts. dumb.  

[Blind Oracle]

sheik changed a bit, so it was hard getting used to it. i manage though.  

[A Pharmaceutical Bandit]

Ganondorf definitely got nerfed big time. With the removal of l-canceling and wavedashing, combined with his already nerfed speed and terrible landing lag/extreme long animations, he's pretty terrible now.

But without a doubt, the most nerfed character is Captain Falcon. Him being literally the bottom of bottom tier speaks for itself, honestly. He's there for a reason. He has 0 priority, and his knee cap suddenly stopped being... useful. He's an absolutely terrible character now. It's a shame, really.

Fox got a bit of the nerf hammer, but not nearly to the extent that Captain Falcon did.  

[DivineMaster]

Mel Sammeah

I dunno, for whatever reason I'm not good with Sheik in Brawl. I was amazing with him (I don't care that it's technically a 'her') in Melee but I'm just okay with him in the new game. The only noticible change is the down+a. He now kicks down at a slant...it's a move I used a lot in melee and I always screw up when I try it in Brawl.

Also, changing from Sheik to Zelda or visa-versa takes /way/ too long now. In Melee, whenever I wanted to use one of Zelda's moves, I could quickly switch and attack. Now, it takes five or six seconds. At least you can start out with Shiek in this game.

And her final smash isn't that good.

I'm not saying Zelda/Shiek got it worse, but that's the only one I really use enough to talk about. sweatdrop

Accually I love the 6 second time delay, because with it I can doge some big moves, my friend likes using gannondorf and when he uses his final move, I just transform and I can dodge it easily and the same with some other moves, also I love the light arrow because I can usually shoot it and hit all 3 of the other opponents, I also like the face that you can just hold her jab move instead of tapping the b button, I like that her stomp brings him/her straight to the ground  

[KelsGotDaB1iky]

I think Ganondorf and Ice Climbers got it bad  

[bloodsoaked]

LUIGI=dead
T.T  

[GandaKris]

Pikachu can be a real hand full especially now in brawl because of his QuAcking moves. Mario got degraded in fact his lag animation on his fair is disappointing. i havnt tried lag canceling that who knows maybe itll work lol  

[Tetsusaiga27]

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