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I would just like to say that I am so upset by this that I just threw up, are you happy yet Shane? You have literally made me sick.

I would also like to ask you two questions, first, how would you like it if someone took away something you worked for three years for and earned? Second, why didn't you warn me at all? Like tell me that I am inactive and if I can't get myself active I either need to step down or be removed.

1. Vet or not vet, you're no more special than any other member. You were a junk Kage. The village was only active in the parts that were as far away from you as possible. I didn't "randomly" demote you. I watched, waited, and learned, and I've come to realize one thing. Giving Kage's warnings will do nothing. The many times I have seen warnings given and accepted, not a single time have any of them acted. As unfortunate as it is, I was (and still am) looking out for the activity of the Leaf. I was hoping that you'd understand and accept that you were inactive; so I'm sorry that you got so upset.

Also, nothing lasts forever. You may have worked years on it and earned it, but if you get a job that you spent years in college to obtain, if you don't show up for work more than once a week, you're going to lose it.

By the way, you weren't just a little inactive. Your last RP post was something like October tenth. A month is enough to justify me getting completely rid of you, I believe; without warning.

And finally, if I just wanted to remove my opposition, I didn't have to demote you from Kage. I could've just made you Kage crew. It wasn't even nearly for that reason that you were demoted. If you think I didn't care about your opinion, then why did I so easily accept your opinion on the matter of OSU? I didn't fight for it because I knew you were right. I do not think you will "always be wrong". I do not think you are "always my enemy". In fact, you saying that you were "my opposition" makes it sound like you would go against my decisions no matter what they were, doesn't it? : /

Our opinions aren't as different as you think. Perhaps on sovereign matters such as who leads, etc, but otherwise, not really.

Also; I recognize that he was originally deemed unfit. However, it's not solely the matter of activity at hand here. It's a matter of inter-activeness. The Kage of a village is the most important member; they shouldn't just spend all day, every day sitting in an office waiting for newcomers. The Kage should get to know the villagers; get out, have discussions, train others, not just micro-manage. That may simply be an opinion; but the best Kages -- by far -- are the ones who take it up a notch. You never did that; it was just an office duty. : / And I don't understand why I'd have to give a warning on that. You know -- the second you take the position of Kage -- that you will be removed if you're inactive. Just becoming a Kage is ALREADY a warning. You don't need reminders; you should remember that the village depends on you by your own accord.

EDIT: Anyway, let's please not do this in the chatroom o O

じょうかい・ミザライン
にんじゅつ、ふうとん。
ししょんのてんし。
Hmmm.

Irish this is the chatroom.
Meant for various chatter and general discussion.
The conversation you're trying to have with Shane is a personal matter and should be taken to private messages. By continuing in a public place you're sure to stir conflict that will cause others to react and join in a problem that does not concern them. In the end you'll give yourself a bad name along with anyone else involved.

How is this a personal matter, I have not cursed, I am being civilized and chatting with him.

I agree with irish about this being perfectly reasonable to do in the chatroom. I don't know where youve been(dandii) for the last however many times this has happened in the chatroom, including one of which involving me... Very little in this guild gets done when taken to pm's, and no other people get involved when things start in said pm's. While I think irish's reaction may be over the top a bit, I still think it belongs here.


Also shane while i commend you for thinking that kages should be interactive, none of the kages in the series do that alot, so it should be ok for one or two kages to do that. it's better than having him do that as a village sannin. if it means him staying leave him as kage, and let the cureent one be the sannin that teaches people. When i'm in my active streaks i'm a crapton more active then my kage, but you dont see me wanting to replace her, because she makes a higher quality leader.

In a real situation between the kage who sits in his office and is serious, and the one who mingles with everyone, i would like and trust the one who i dont see often, than the one who knows me.