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ChrisJS

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:16 am
So I was just reading a bit in my copy of ep. zero and I wanted to clarify some things that I never realized before...

According to the side notes, Odin Lowe was the man who shot the original Heero Yuy. This means that he was supposed to be a part of OZ. It also seemed to state that Dekim Barton was Heero yuy's right hand man...and killed Odin.

To me, this sounds like Odin was a bad guy, while Dekim was on the good side.... which is kindd of backwards from what i thought it was. EW made it seem that Dekim was directly a part of the original OM...a plan that was against the ideals of the original Heero Yuy.

So was Dekim really on the side of Heero Yuy? or was it all a ploy? And was Odin Lowe really an enemy who trained Heero as a child and Heero just branched out to become a Gundam Pilot (and against OM) on his own or was Odin Lowe an enemy turned good? (He did try to assassinate general Septem after all...so ep zero says) Or was Odin good the whole time???

Any ideas???  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:37 pm
uhhh sorry i haven't got a chance to read ep. zero what is it about?  

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ChrisJS

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:06 pm
Well, it gives a bit of background to GW's main characters, including the 5 pilots, Relena, a bit about Zechs, a little about Noin (a very little >< ). It kind of shows how the characters got to where they were when the show started...

I definitely recommend it 3nodding  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:34 am
uhhh where could i read it at ot buy it?  

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:41 pm
Odin and Septum both allude to him being part of the organization, though it sounds more like he was just a freelance assassin more than an actual member. Odin also mentions, when talking to little Hee-chan, that he regrets killing Heero and left the organization right after. It's not directly mentioned, but the reader can assume that Odin was taking orders from the colonies' side to kill Septum.

As far as Dekim Barton goes... He is more concerned with his personal status than the ideals of others. When it was convenient to be an ally to Heero Yuy, he was. After Heero's death, there was opportunity for Dekim to say pacifism wouldn't work and that they needed to use force against the Earth. I mean, how true blue can a person who didn't even care about his own granddaughter at the end of EW be?

gundam fan zero: You can get Episode 0 from pretty much any book store.

You two may also want to get the GW Technical Manual. It has a lot of extra information about the series (time lines, character details, mecha stats, etc).  
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:57 pm
Just like in RL, sides change, motives are veiled, and true intention is never quite known for sure.  

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:00 pm
true  
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:46 pm
Very true.  

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:51 am
Danie pretty much nailed it there. Odin's a rogue assassin that takes on whatever job he feels like. There is a good amount of background information about Odin in Frozen Teardrop.  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:42 am
DanieBarton03
Odin and Septum both allude to him being part of the organization, though it sounds more like he was just a freelance assassin more than an actual member. Odin also mentions, when talking to little Hee-chan, that he regrets killing Heero and left the organization right after. It's not directly mentioned, but the reader can assume that Odin was taking orders from the colonies' side to kill Septum.

Or so he thought: it was actually all a trap set by Dekim. A three-way trap, in fact.

The Quinze-led attack on the command center of X-18999 is just a diversion, one orchestrated by Dekim so that Odin Lowe could sneak into the command center. General Septem obviously suspected that Dekim might be surreptitiously helping the rebels, too, as evidenced by Septem's sneer, "Hmph! Quite the weasel, aren't you... This is why you can't trust anyone from the colonies!" The attack was designed to fail from the get-go, honestly: the Specials were in Dekim's pocket from the beginning. He expected them to overpower Quinze. That's why, once Odin makes his move, he lies to Quinze and tells him that the communications lines have been re-established so that Quinze will withdraw and save what's left of his forces. A rebel defeat would also be a great feather in the Specials' hat -- thus elevating their status and bringing OZ's sleeper agents ever higher in the pecking order.

But why kill Septem?

When Odin calls out to Septem before he takes his shot, Septem knows exactly who Odin is. He's also surprised that Odin was still taking contracts after he'd commissioned him for a mysterious "job" that he does not expound upon. Then, when Dekim confronts Odin, he shoots him for "revenge" rather than to "silence" him. Odin realizes Dekim's plan at the end -- he comments on the "irony" of it.

And there we have it.

Septem was the one who hired Odin Lowe to kill Heero Yuy.

Dekim paid Odin to kill the General to put both players in the same place. If all went well, Odin would kill Septem, and then Dekim would kill Odin. Two birds, one stone. The leader of the colonies would be avenged... at least in part.

The fact that the attempt on Septem failed probably doesn't matter all that much to Dekim: he's a patient man. He'd also scored two major points, in that Odin Lowe was now dead and that the effectiveness of the Specials had been proven. Once "Operation Meteor" was underway, Septem would probably get his anyway.  

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:51 am
hnmm i can see why Aoi Clerk left Odin in the first place eek she knew the consequences of his action , so she had little heero , marry Sei Clerk and join OZ .  
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