Vent thread - Let it all out

[Eltanin Sadachbia]

Churches and Christians make my brain hurt... That's old news though...

Life has hit my house pretty hard over the last 10 days... The husband's transmission shot the s**t the Thursday before last, it's gonna cost at least $1200 to fix...Then last Thursday, a tree broke apart and smashed my trucks frame, windshield, passenger side door, and hood... It's totaled. Both of our rides in a week...

We are blessed that it wasn't accidents that took them out...

The new roof we got last year is pretty banged up... but no holes...

Waiting on insurance again...

All in all, I suppose this is more of a praise report... Everyone in my family is safe. I don't know what we are going to do, but I guess it is these times we learn trust...  

[Victoria of Gallifrey]

It's good perspective when things like that happen, to account for the things that are going well in life. Do hope things get better though.  

[Jos K Kitten]

-breathes-

This is going to get a little long, so prepare yourself... I promise I won't rage...

So, I've been dealing with lots of stress of college and classes and other things. Lot of stuff has started this year that has gotten me real anxious. I am a very emotional person and I know that in the bible Jesus stated against Believers that the world would hate them. But, it hurts to know someone says that they HATE Christians because of one tragic even that happened in his life.

I've been trying my best to let go, but I feel it's better to open the bottle and let it out instead of leaving in the bottle. This happened to me a year back when I was in bible college and I was still learning about loving my enemies. I was going through Face book and there was a comic about "trolls" I'm not sure if you guys are familiar, but I sure was. Now back then I could get a few laughs but this one pushed me close to the edge. The comic was talking about since Oil is lighter than water it floats. So put Oil in water and Oil on your feet... you walk on water, and at the end said "You Mad Jesus?"

I commented saying that Jesus couldn't be mad. He died on the cross for our sins... but I got a comment.

"You can do anything with fiction, since Jesus didn't exist it doesn't matter."

The first thought that past my mind was to go down on this girl... but I decided to not to argue and to be the better person so I didn't argue. A few days later it really got on my nerves because she continued to comment. I finally said something like "I'm not making an argument here" and she basically shouted that I could keep my ******** religion to myself..

It hurts to know that I have no freedom of speech to speak of my own faith. It also hurts to know how people are learning about Jesus... that he doesn't exist, that he hated gays... and how some churches are treating people like they're outsiders and rejecting people that don't believe in their faith but need help! That was Jesus told us to do was to help! It's just so hard when the people we wish to help reject us because of their experiences... If I could I would have rejected Jesus because of my experiences with Bullies and turn away from Jesus. I almost did but I didn't!

Sometimes I don't understand.... but then I remember Proverbs Chapter 5 Verse 3... Trust in the Lord, lean not on your own understandings...  

[rmcdra]

Jos K Kitten

-breathes-

This is going to get a little long, so prepare yourself... I promise I won't rage...

So, I've been dealing with lots of stress of college and classes and other things. Lot of stuff has started this year that has gotten me real anxious. I am a very emotional person and I know that in the bible Jesus stated against Believers that the world would hate them. But, it hurts to know someone says that they HATE Christians because of one tragic even that happened in his life.

I've been trying my best to let go, but I feel it's better to open the bottle and let it out instead of leaving in the bottle. This happened to me a year back when I was in bible college and I was still learning about loving my enemies. I was going through Face book and there was a comic about "trolls" I'm not sure if you guys are familiar, but I sure was. Now back then I could get a few laughs but this one pushed me close to the edge. The comic was talking about since Oil is lighter than water it floats. So put Oil in water and Oil on your feet... you walk on water, and at the end said "You Mad Jesus?"

I commented saying that Jesus couldn't be mad. He died on the cross for our sins... but I got a comment.

"You can do anything with fiction, since Jesus didn't exist it doesn't matter."

The first thought that past my mind was to go down on this girl... but I decided to not to argue and to be the better person so I didn't argue. A few days later it really got on my nerves because she continued to comment. I finally said something like "I'm not making an argument here" and she basically shouted that I could keep my ******** religion to myself..

It hurts to know that I have no freedom of speech to speak of my own faith. It also hurts to know how people are learning about Jesus... that he doesn't exist, that he hated gays... and how some churches are treating people like they're outsiders and rejecting people that don't believe in their faith but need help! That was Jesus told us to do was to help! It's just so hard when the people we wish to help reject us because of their experiences... If I could I would have rejected Jesus because of my experiences with Bullies and turn away from Jesus. I almost did but I didn't!

Sometimes I don't understand.... but then I remember Proverbs Chapter 5 Verse 3... Trust in the Lord, lean not on your own understandings...

It sucks when that happens. What helps me cope is to remember that I'm not the caracture that they are mad at. If they can't see that then it's a problem on their part. All people construct illusions of how they understand the world, usually based on limited understanding. I know when I was growing up, I would have never guessed how diverse Christianity is or how even more diverse early Christianity was. While I do believe Jesus was a real person, it doesn't bug me if someone calls him make believe. What matters is the changes his teachings (or the teachings attributed to him if you want to get technical) and narratives about his life have done for others and myself. This is the unseen Christ spirit at work.  

[Victoria of Gallifrey]

Jos K Kitten

-breathes-

This is going to get a little long, so prepare yourself... I promise I won't rage...

So, I've been dealing with lots of stress of college and classes and other things. Lot of stuff has started this year that has gotten me real anxious. I am a very emotional person and I know that in the bible Jesus stated against Believers that the world would hate them. But, it hurts to know someone says that they HATE Christians because of one tragic even that happened in his life.

I've been trying my best to let go, but I feel it's better to open the bottle and let it out instead of leaving in the bottle. This happened to me a year back when I was in bible college and I was still learning about loving my enemies. I was going through Face book and there was a comic about "trolls" I'm not sure if you guys are familiar, but I sure was. Now back then I could get a few laughs but this one pushed me close to the edge. The comic was talking about since Oil is lighter than water it floats. So put Oil in water and Oil on your feet... you walk on water, and at the end said "You Mad Jesus?"

I commented saying that Jesus couldn't be mad. He died on the cross for our sins... but I got a comment.

"You can do anything with fiction, since Jesus didn't exist it doesn't matter."

The first thought that past my mind was to go down on this girl... but I decided to not to argue and to be the better person so I didn't argue. A few days later it really got on my nerves because she continued to comment. I finally said something like "I'm not making an argument here" and she basically shouted that I could keep my ******** religion to myself..

It hurts to know that I have no freedom of speech to speak of my own faith. It also hurts to know how people are learning about Jesus... that he doesn't exist, that he hated gays... and how some churches are treating people like they're outsiders and rejecting people that don't believe in their faith but need help! That was Jesus told us to do was to help! It's just so hard when the people we wish to help reject us because of their experiences... If I could I would have rejected Jesus because of my experiences with Bullies and turn away from Jesus. I almost did but I didn't!

Sometimes I don't understand.... but then I remember Proverbs Chapter 5 Verse 3... Trust in the Lord, lean not on your own understandings...

I understand your suffering here, but it's important not to get too frustrated. People who lash out against Christianity or Jesus are often under-educated, or have been hurt by a bad experience, and for that, we should feel more the urge to inform or help them. Some people will clearly not want help or information. As such, it may not be the time or the place for them to come to terms with it. All I ask, is never be the type to condemn them for their words or actions, but to love as you've been taught to love. I once hated Christians too, and that hate was based on pain and suffering related to knowing quite a few bad ones. I didn't change my mind until I was expressing my hate on a group of Christians that then offered to take me to dinner and listen to what I had to say. They were very open and casual about it and made no attempt to ridicule, condemn or belittle me. Shortly into the meal, and after some pleasant conversation, we discussed my hatred of Christians and I let out the things that bothered me about them. They quickly informed me they were not the kind of Christians I had dealt with before, they apologized for what others had done on behalf of the Lord, and showed me what Christianity really was: an unyielding faith in Christ with pure Trust in Christ's teachings. To them, it was about love and spreading the word, and helping the wounded. The way they saw it, many people can't see past their own suffering, but when lifted from their suffering, they might see for themselves.

As it is I'm not a believer. I'm entirely too skeptical. Perhaps it's the scars life has bore on me over the years, but it's near impossible for me to trust anyone without fact or data I myself can assimilate. For that, I have at least prayed for forgiveness if my apprehensions are wrong. And regardless of my lack of belief, I do pray every now and then. But I'm glad that I no longer hate them.  

[deadmanjay]

Jos K Kitten

It hurts to know that I have no freedom of speech to speak of my own faith

What? You do have freedom of speech to talk about your faith. Others have freedom of speech to talk against your faith.

Jos K Kitten

It also hurts to know how people are learning about Jesus...

Pat Robertson, the WBC, any preacher that talks about Hell and Damnation. Yeah, all of that is ******** stupid.

Jos K Kitten

that he doesn't exist,

There really isn't any or confirmed evidence that says Yeshua Bin Yoseph did exist as depicted in the Bible, if at all. But the way to deal with an angstheist is to either ignore them or piss them off more. The latter is way more fun.  

[deadmanjay]

There are some people who claim to be thread enders, but damnit, none of them are quite like me. Yay mee....I am the ultimate of ultimates.  

[Thoron_Dread]

Question, Prayer, and Vent at the same time...Be prepared. (mostly vent which is why I am posting here)

So...There are these guys in my dorm hall and they party every night! They get crazy drunk either out at other parties or in our dorm, then stay up all night acting stupid, knocking on doors, screaming, and other things drunk people do. I feel like I can't take it anymore. I can't get to sleep or anything. Its not the worse either. One of them is a christian that even goes to church with me(sometimes if he isn't hungover after saturdays).
Question part: So how do I approach him about this problem. He is a friend of mine, and I don't want to come off as pushy and all, but i am worried about this partying stuff especially since he hasn't gone to church or anything in forever.
Prayer: Please pray for him, and for me to find the courage, or whatever i need to speak with him about it. And pray for the other dorm guys who are partying up a storm and doing who knows what else.  

[Southern Cross Nemesis]

Thoron_Dread

I can't say, I will pray for him. but from my experience, the best way to confront a friend about something... is straight up. Man to man, as it is. Though, don't expect him to change just because you want him to. Things don't work that way...

I will have to get back to you on the location, but I remember Paul writing about approaching a fellow christian with an issue.

Edit: Me wrong, found in

Matthew 18  

[rmcdra]

Thoron_Dread

Question, Prayer, and Vent at the same time...Be prepared. (mostly vent which is why I am posting here)

So...There are these guys in my dorm hall and they party every night! They get crazy drunk either out at other parties or in our dorm, then stay up all night acting stupid, knocking on doors, screaming, and other things drunk people do. I feel like I can't take it anymore. I can't get to sleep or anything. Its not the worse either. One of them is a christian that even goes to church with me(sometimes if he isn't hungover after saturdays).
Question part: So how do I approach him about this problem. He is a friend of mine, and I don't want to come off as pushy and all, but i am worried about this partying stuff especially since he hasn't gone to church or anything in forever.
Prayer: Please pray for him, and for me to find the courage, or whatever i need to speak with him about it. And pray for the other dorm guys who are partying up a storm and doing who knows what else.

Start with understanding where he's coming from and why he does the behavior he does. There might be more going on than you're currently aware of. Let him know you are concerned about his well-being and confront him about it. Be a friend to this person, not a doormat or a "parent". The important thing is to let him know that you are concerned about him and you feel like he's hurting himself. Once you've done that, the ball is in his court.  

[deadmanjay]

rmcdra

Thoron_Dread

Question, Prayer, and Vent at the same time...Be prepared. (mostly vent which is why I am posting here)

So...There are these guys in my dorm hall and they party every night! They get crazy drunk either out at other parties or in our dorm, then stay up all night acting stupid, knocking on doors, screaming, and other things drunk people do. I feel like I can't take it anymore. I can't get to sleep or anything. Its not the worse either. One of them is a christian that even goes to church with me(sometimes if he isn't hungover after saturdays).
Question part: So how do I approach him about this problem. He is a friend of mine, and I don't want to come off as pushy and all, but i am worried about this partying stuff especially since he hasn't gone to church or anything in forever.
Prayer: Please pray for him, and for me to find the courage, or whatever i need to speak with him about it. And pray for the other dorm guys who are partying up a storm and doing who knows what else.

Start with understanding where he's coming from and why he does the behavior he does. There might be more going on than you're currently aware of. Let him know you are concerned about his well-being and confront him about it. Be a friend to this person, not a doormat or a "parent". The important thing is to let him know that you are concerned about him and you feel like he's hurting himself. Once you've done that, the ball is in his court.

I would suggest a good thrashing with an alcohol and salt rubbed whipping branch. After that a few words of kindness and compassion followed by a head dunking to rinse. After the rinse, do it over again until the sin is away.

Or wait til he is in a drunken stupor to draw on his face. Or paint rainbows and ponys on his face.  

[Southern Cross Nemesis]

Christmas time again, a useless holiday filled with stupid music and tiring overdone scenes of arguments and birth of a baby. I don't mean to sound like a scrooge, but this and two other holidays seem they should be removed.

I have to ask, I know it is a bad idea to base a thought on negative, but does it seem that some people are predestined to go to hell? I mean where would christianity be without the one who betrayed. How would the old tales of the old testiment be with out the evil Gentiles, Canaanites, Egyptians, I am sure I am missing a few.

It is probably just me, but there are many other examples, where I see people are predestined to play the role of villain to make x prediction come true  

[deadmanjay]

Southern Cross Nemesis

Christmas time again, a useless holiday filled with stupid music and tiring overdone scenes of arguments and birth of a baby. I don't mean to sound like a scrooge, but this and two other holidays seem they should be removed.

I have to ask, I know it is a bad idea to base a thought on negative, but does it seem that some people are predestined to go to hell? I mean where would christianity be without the one who betrayed. How would the old tales of the old testiment be with out the evil Gentiles, Canaanites, Egyptians, I am sure I am missing a few.

It is probably just me, but there are many other examples, where I see people are predestined to play the role of villain to make x prediction come true

If you believe in mythology, then of course there are people destined to be villains. You can't have a hero/saviour without a villan/opposition. History is written by winners so to speak. Christians needed someone to prove Jesus so judas was the turncoat. As well as the evil Romans.

As for Christmas, people need to pay attention more to the family aspect than spen every dime you have. Also need to shut the ******** up about the supposed war on Christmas. ******** glen beck and pat Robertson, the bible raping bastards.  

[Eltanin Sadachbia]

Reality shows.... That 'bout says it there...

Also, school transcripts from a private school that closed but did not follow standard procedure... I may have to get a GED just to go to college.

I tried to bring a stunted kitten (she was the runt of the litter and is not growing) in the house to try her as an inside kitty, but she would not stop pooping in the tub...

That is all.  

[deadmanjay]

apparently, people have forgotten....................................