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Acerbus nox noctis

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Another unfortunate school shooting has occured in Cleveland today and it was stated that the shooter proceeded to kill themself after wounding several individuals. They had been suspended for fighting a few days before and entered the school and started shooting.

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The article specifically mentions that the shooter was considered "gothic", describing how they often dressed. Several comments made by readers also mention this fact, as if it was typical, or rather expected. Instead of dwelling on the tradegy and the fact that the perhaps disturbed individual's threats were not taken seriously, they instead feel the need to mention this fact. I hardly see the need for them to have mentioned how they dressed, if they did so here, why not mention what every other person who committed an act of violence wore?

What are your thoughts about yet another school shooting in the news by one presumed to be gothic? How does how it is written make you feel? Discuss.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:44 pm
Don't worry, by next week we'll discover he played sonic the hedgehog when he was 12 so video games made him do it.  

Rellik San
Crew


Draining Deadly Rainbows

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:09 pm
For the sake of the Gods. Of COURSE it was a goth. Because we're all just so evil and twisted, right?
When there's a shooting or anything of the sort, people start to treat us like the plague.
It's like.. The "medical teams" blaming everything on Dungeons and Dragons. Because it's an evil game that evil people play.
How many more times are they going to roll the dice and land on blaming Goth's?
Irritating, and ignorant,
But that's how humans work, I suppose.
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:59 pm
I heard no accusations of him being goth in any other source. I heard (from Fox News, who would be the first source to call him goth regardless) that he was a "loner" and "had no friends", but beyond that, no social classification was made. I should suggest that you don't trust AOL's news, as nothing else from that company is to be trusted in the first place.

As a side note, it should be observed that a student was the one who called him that, nobody who's actually important said anything of the sort.
 

-Isel-


-Resurrected Writer-
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:07 pm
Regardless of blame...
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The trend of school shootings is just disheartening.  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:12 pm
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Regardless of blame...
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The trend of school shootings is just disheartening.


I'm interested in seeing how many children will die, as I am a statistic-obsessor, and I should hope I don't have to quote Stalin in this situation, as I trust we all know the words.
 

-Isel-


My Lovely Ora

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:16 pm
It's a shame that these tragic acts of violence continue. Does it seem like more people are becoming desensitized to the whole ordeal of school shootings nowadays?  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:26 pm
It's ridiculous how they target the fact that he "dressed goth." Clothes don't make someone walk into school with a gun and kill people off. It's as if people view the dress style as a mental illness in itself, and that's why he did it.

They should be doing a case-study instead of studying what the other school kids had to say about the way he dressed.

I sure hope his parents are pissed about the way the news is going about talking about their son.



And since the article isn't showing up...I sure hope that the parents of the kids who were shot are mad at the direction they're taking about reporting this.

That's disgusting.  

-Sylvia Blank Page-


XXX Zombie Porn

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:25 am
I want to see some one with lots of friends and 'normal' become a mass murderer.
Not lieterally but you never see it.  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:07 am
I could've straightened that little punk out...no wait, he doesn't deserve that title, hes a jerk.

also, on the same note as Zombie Porn, it would be better news to report on a preppy cheerleader dressing all bright and colorfully doing a shooting. Not that it would make the shooting alright, but it would be more interesting.  

dark_LordBeld


Devils_lilboy

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:50 am
Rellik San
Don't worry, by next week we'll discover he played sonic the hedgehog when he was 12 so video games made him do it.


I agree with him...  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:44 pm
I don't realy know. I have mixed opinions on this. I think that the media should get it's facts straight.... And maybe look at all those in early Roman Catholic days who mass murdered, (which had more effenct in the day, since there wer less people...) whole villages, town and cities to the piont that two large cities in Germany had only two women between them.

(Yes the Dark Ages, or Burning Times)

Interestingly enough of the thousands killed maybe twenty or thirty were the "witches" they were targeting...  

Snows Wyntre


GilAskan
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:32 pm
Article
Coon, who was white, stood out in the predominantly black school for dressing in a goth style, wearing a black trench coat, black boots, a dog collar and chains, she said.

Police believe Coon, wearing a Marilyn Manson shirt, black jeans and black nail polish, targeted the two teachers he shot Wednesday.

Coon's troubles seemed to come to a breaking point this week. Students said Monday's fight was over God - Coon told his classmates he didn't believe in God and instead worshipped rocker Marilyn Manson.

Coon had mental health problems,


So many connections to be pondered.

1) As we all well know, Manson is not a goth. I still wonder why he's associated with it after all these years, especially in that media is supposed to have fact checking.

2) If he had mental health problems, and he was known to, shouldn't they have kept an eye on him when he suggested he might bring a gun to school?

And more.  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:09 pm
I didn't heard about unstill in my Into to Philosophy class today. Everyday it seems to get worse though, be it a shooting or another bombing. I don’t know it doesn’t even seem worth it to watch T.V. anymore. Also "Goth" as a descriptor is way too vague, my friend dresses like that and she isn’t “Goth”.

tis a sad world we live in.  

Tahmuku


Henneth Annun
Captain

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:35 pm
Watch, someone wearing jeans,Nike shoes, and an Abercrombie T-shirt is going to go on a shooting spree somewhere, and everyone will say:

"Oh, he must have been very sad and angry, maybe he had mental issues?"

Then, someone wearing black pants and a smashing pumpkins shirt is going to do the SAME THING, and this time they'll say:

"He's evil! He's disturbed! Satanic goth! Oh he played mario yesterday? Video games did this to him!"

Not only that, people will start thinking the Smashing Pumpkins are goth. rolleyes Then people are going to get all these scewed statistics from studies that aren't even legitimate or haven't even been completed that show how violent video games make our mentally healthy kids. BS.  
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