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Krilliad

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:23 pm
What do these extra numbers in calibers mean D:
It
is
driving
me
crazy!!!

Example.
.223
.308
.357
.475

Etc.

What do these stand for? And also do the first two numbers mean something that the third doesn't? What does it meeean D:  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:04 pm
The measurement of "Caliber" is in inches. So, a 1.0 cal is 1" in diameter, a .50cal is half an inch, etc...

7.62mm is = to 308 thousandths of an inch or, .308 (7.62 has always been reffered to as a .30cal)
5.56 is = to 223 thousandths of an inch or .223 (It is sometimes called a .22 round)

There is no coding for ammo when it comes to its name. However, terms like FMJ (Full-Metal Jacket), FHJ (Jacketed Hollow-Point), APIT (Armor piercing Incidiary Tracer), etc... describe what type of round it is.  

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Krilliad

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:18 pm
Freak_090
The measurement of "Caliber" is in inches. So, a 1.0 cal is 1" in diameter, a .50cal is half an inch, etc...

7.62mm is = to 308 thousandths of an inch or, .308 (7.62 has always been reffered to as a .30cal)
5.56 is = to 223 thousandths of an inch or .223 (It is sometimes called a .22 round)

There is no coding for ammo when it comes to its name. However, terms like FMJ (Full-Metal Jacket), FHJ (Jacketed Hollow-Point), APIT (Armor piercing Incidiary Tracer), etc... describe what type of round it is.
What about ACP (sorry , I should know that one xD )
and so .357 is close to .35 but its 7 thousandths of an inch off?  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:30 pm
Battlefield Reaper
Freak_090
The measurement of "Caliber" is in inches. So, a 1.0 cal is 1" in diameter, a .50cal is half an inch, etc...

7.62mm is = to 308 thousandths of an inch or, .308 (7.62 has always been reffered to as a .30cal)
5.56 is = to 223 thousandths of an inch or .223 (It is sometimes called a .22 round)

There is no coding for ammo when it comes to its name. However, terms like FMJ (Full-Metal Jacket), FHJ (Jacketed Hollow-Point), APIT (Armor piercing Incidiary Tracer), etc... describe what type of round it is.
What about ACP (sorry , I should know that one xD )
and so .357 is close to .35 but its 7 thousandths of an inch off?

Well you could say that it is 3 thousandths of an inch off of .36 xp

ACP = Automatic (auto-loading) Colt Pistol. Which basically amounts to, "Desinged by Colt Arms, for an auto-loading (semi-auto) pistol"  

Freak_090
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Fresnel
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:48 pm
I've actually got a related question to bring up... why is it that the last digit of the caliber is, more often than not, wrong?

7mm Mauser is actually 7.92mm
.303 British is actually .311"
.50BMG is actually .51"
.223 Remington is actually .224"

Why do they name this s**t like that if it's just going to be wrong?  
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:35 am
Fresnel
I've actually got a related question to bring up... why is it that the last digit of the caliber is, more often than not, wrong?

7mm Mauser is actually 7.92mm
.303 British is actually .311"
.50BMG is actually .51"
.223 Remington is actually .224"

Why do they name this s**t like that if it's just going to be wrong?

tolerances maybe?

I'm glad this came backup anyways because I have something bugging me: What about .50 and .500? Aren't they both just .50? I mean, there's the .50 BMG and .50 AE (I guess that's right) so why the extra 0?  

Man of the Demoneye


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:33 am
Man of the Demoneye
Fresnel
I've actually got a related question to bring up... why is it that the last digit of the caliber is, more often than not, wrong?

7mm Mauser is actually 7.92mm
.303 British is actually .311"
.50BMG is actually .51"
.223 Remington is actually .224"

Why do they name this s**t like that if it's just going to be wrong?

tolerances maybe?

I'm glad this came backup anyways because I have something bugging me: What about .50 and .500? Aren't they both just .50? I mean, there's the .50 BMG and .50 AE (I guess that's right) so why the extra 0?
Probably to make clear that it's not a .51 like the normal .50BMG. Or maybe it was to match their Model 500 revolver, and they already had a Model 50?  
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:34 am
7.62x38R
7.62x54R

No question about those?

lol

7.92x57 IS

lol  

OberFeldwebel


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:36 pm
OberFeldwebel
7.62x38R
7.62x54R

No question about those?

lol

7.92x57 IS

lol
7.62x38R = 7.49mm
7.62x54R = 7.92 mm
7.92x57 = 8.2mm

WTF? Srsly.  
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:28 pm
Fresnel
OberFeldwebel
7.62x38R
7.62x54R

No question about those?

lol

7.92x57 IS

lol
7.62x38R = 7.49mm
7.62x54R = 7.92 mm
7.92x57 = 8.2mm

WTF? Srsly.


liek zomg.
7.5x55


Speaking of ammunition, at the gun show I went to today this guy had milsurp .303 that I was going to buy as soon as I sold my SKS and what happens?
I sell my SKS, go up to the guy and the guy ahead of me buys the whole damn lot.
crying
$10 a box.
You can't find a better deal than that anywhere else!

I did get a muzzle cover for my K31, K31 stripper clips and a Russian SKS mag pouch for $30.  

OberFeldwebel


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:03 pm
OberFeldwebel
Fresnel
OberFeldwebel
7.62x38R
7.62x54R

No question about those?

lol

7.92x57 IS

lol
7.62x38R = 7.49mm
7.62x54R = 7.92 mm
7.92x57 = 8.2mm

WTF? Srsly.


liek zomg.
7.5x55


Speaking of ammunition, at the gun show I went to today this guy had milsurp .303 that I was going to buy as soon as I sold my SKS and what happens?
I sell my SKS, go up to the guy and the guy ahead of me buys the whole damn lot.
crying
$10 a box.
You can't find a better deal than that anywhere else!

I did get a muzzle cover for my K31, K31 stripper clips and a Russian SKS mag pouch for $30.
Owwwwwwwww. Damn. I have six rounds of 1940's MilSurp left, and one is... well, one of these things is not like the others.

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It's either a tracer, or a standard ball. I can't be sure until I shoot it...  
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:53 pm
Huh... that's odd. I wouldn't shoot the last one.  

OberFeldwebel


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:07 am
OberFeldwebel
Huh... that's odd. I wouldn't shoot the last one.
I've been told it's just a wax sealant to keep the powder from getting wet. I took a knife and it cuts like wax, so I'm inclined to believe that. I'm probably not going to shoot any of those unless I HAVE to, just for the novelty value.  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:09 am
Fresnel
OberFeldwebel
Huh... that's odd. I wouldn't shoot the last one.
I've been told it's just a wax sealant to keep the powder from getting wet. I took a knife and it cuts like wax, so I'm inclined to believe that. I'm probably not going to shoot any of those unless I HAVE to, just for the novelty value.


Yeah, if they are from the '40s I wouldn't shoot them either.
Might make a nice display if you get any other WWII British stuff.  

OberFeldwebel


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:35 pm
OberFeldwebel
Fresnel
OberFeldwebel
Huh... that's odd. I wouldn't shoot the last one.
I've been told it's just a wax sealant to keep the powder from getting wet. I took a knife and it cuts like wax, so I'm inclined to believe that. I'm probably not going to shoot any of those unless I HAVE to, just for the novelty value.


Yeah, if they are from the '40s I wouldn't shoot them either.
Might make a nice display if you get any other WWII British stuff.
I shot two dozen rounds of it before I realized it wasn't Wolf. gonk  
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