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i am asking this because i recently went to the service of another religion. (it is not haram to observe another religion's service, only to participate). i did not participate in their rituals, i just went and quietly observed a catholic mass.
my observations were pretty good. the priest actually was able to make a biblical story relevant to modern life, in a way that was understandable to everyone in the room. the people were not judgemental of others in the room. they were very nice, and very polite. there was a good mix of diferent ethnic backgrounds, and there were no complaints. they didnt even bring politics into the sermon. well, they talked about the war, but did not even give a position of their oppinion on the war. just that war is never a good thing, and is very hard on everyone.
basing from the last time i went to jummah (about a month ago), i felt very out of place. i felt that everyone was staring and judging, just because i wasn't dressed up enough, or wasnt "muslim enough". every mosque here is arbitrarily seperated by culture. there is a mosque where all the arabs go, one where all the bengalis go, one for the african muslims, one for the black american muslims, one for the bosnians, albanians, for the pakis, and everyone only goes to their specific mosque. i definately didnt see any white converts. the khutbah didnt even relate to anything that i could use in real life, (the parts that i could understand, most imams cant speak english to save their life) and at the end, i was thinking to myself, wow, i hope allaah (swt) is happy i came here to pray, cuz i sure as hell know i didnt gain anything from it, not even a little more pride that i am a muslim.
my question is: why are we as muslims so unwelcoming not only to outsiders, but to our own muslim brothers and sisters. and why the hell do we still have to live like we are in the 6 century? please give constructive comments, and as the future of our religion, please make a change to our community for the better.
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:29 am
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Due to interpretations of the Qur'an itself people spread into cultures and of course only go to their respected Mosques, Whether it be out of pride or it be for gaining material gains to put personal views on the Qur'an which makes the Qur'an in his words, not Allah's (S.W.T). I suppose it really depends where you live, and even then the people around you. Last time I went to a Muslim Community I found it more friendly than where I have to live which is infact a Christian Community filled with Churches, And due to all the varying sects in Christianity of course the same goes for Churches, which goes for the same deal with Muslims. Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi, Etc., Which brings that I'd rather care about praying to Allah (S.W.T) and learn from Hadiths, The Qur'an, And learning more of True Islam rather than all this bickering Sects seem to display to show their view as the right one.
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:14 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:44 pm
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:38 am
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:42 am
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:38 am
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kasimir-b Zaaki Soo what should we do? If we make mosques for everybody, some people wont understand! so then it is ok to segregate everyone by race, or language? wow, i guess the civil rights movement never really did happen. Not realy race, but language is alright 3nodding Cause how would you comunicate with someone who talks another language than you?
I have ben in mosques with Imam's that talks just arabic, and it ain't that understandable...
And i have ben hearing Imam's talking danish, and urdu... And i understand what they say 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:24 am
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:39 am
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:15 am
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:36 pm
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Haydar the Truthful tassan Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore I can leave my shoes outside and not even put it in shoe racks inside the mosque. so you mean those who put their shoes inside the mosque in the shoe racks are committing mistake? He didn't mean it was a mistake, He meant that there is so much trust with fellow believers who go to the mosque that he instead of putting his shoes inside the mosque, he could just leave em outside and no one would take them. Showing how much trust Islam shows.
but it is a Holy thing to place your shoes outside and not enter with your shoes because mosque is a holy place where as shoes are not holy?
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:01 pm
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tassan Haydar the Truthful tassan Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore I can leave my shoes outside and not even put it in shoe racks inside the mosque. so you mean those who put their shoes inside the mosque in the shoe racks are committing mistake? He didn't mean it was a mistake, He meant that there is so much trust with fellow believers who go to the mosque that he instead of putting his shoes inside the mosque, he could just leave em outside and no one would take them. Showing how much trust Islam shows. but it is a Holy thing to place your shoes outside and not enter with your shoes because mosque is a holy place where as shoes are not holy?
Yes it is a holy place, I have been in a mosque that is far from me afew times, The outer part of it is sort of a lobby, everyone is wearing shoes or socks, or maybe none, But shoes are allowed OUTSIDE the area, But the inner mosque is used for prayers and such. So shoes are allowed "In" the mosque but not "in" the actual mosque. Know what I mean?
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:36 am
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Haydar the Truthful tassan Haydar the Truthful tassan Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore I can leave my shoes outside and not even put it in shoe racks inside the mosque. so you mean those who put their shoes inside the mosque in the shoe racks are committing mistake? He didn't mean it was a mistake, He meant that there is so much trust with fellow believers who go to the mosque that he instead of putting his shoes inside the mosque, he could just leave em outside and no one would take them. Showing how much trust Islam shows. but it is a Holy thing to place your shoes outside and not enter with your shoes because mosque is a holy place where as shoes are not holy? Yes it is a holy place, I have been in a mosque that is far from me afew times, The outer part of it is sort of a lobby, everyone is wearing shoes or socks, or maybe none, But shoes are allowed OUTSIDE the area, But the inner mosque is used for prayers and such. So shoes are allowed "In" the mosque but not "in" the actual mosque. Know what I mean?
why you don't simply say shoes are not allowed in the pray area of the mosque where as it is allowed in the place where none prays in the mosque!
is this what you meant?
and most of the people in my neighborhood wear off the shoes takes them in their hands and places it INSIDE the pray area of the mosque?
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:06 pm
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tassan Haydar the Truthful tassan Haydar the Truthful tassan Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore I can leave my shoes outside and not even put it in shoe racks inside the mosque. so you mean those who put their shoes inside the mosque in the shoe racks are committing mistake? He didn't mean it was a mistake, He meant that there is so much trust with fellow believers who go to the mosque that he instead of putting his shoes inside the mosque, he could just leave em outside and no one would take them. Showing how much trust Islam shows. but it is a Holy thing to place your shoes outside and not enter with your shoes because mosque is a holy place where as shoes are not holy? Yes it is a holy place, I have been in a mosque that is far from me afew times, The outer part of it is sort of a lobby, everyone is wearing shoes or socks, or maybe none, But shoes are allowed OUTSIDE the area, But the inner mosque is used for prayers and such. So shoes are allowed "In" the mosque but not "in" the actual mosque. Know what I mean? why you don't simply say shoes are not allowed in the pray area of the mosque where as it is allowed in the place where none prays in the mosque! is this what you meant? and most of the people in my neighborhood wear off the shoes takes them in their hands and places it INSIDE the pray area of the mosque?
Yeah that's what I meant, Kinda odd you have Muslims putting filthy shoes in a prayer area.
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:06 am
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