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 Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:46 am
Salaam wa Aleikom Brothers & Sisters,
A week ago or so, I walk talking to a friend , and suddenly the Topic Valentines Day jumped on... and the more we talked about it, him sending cards etc.. the more I started to think to myself..
What Is Valentines Day... Really?
What is Valentines Day?.. everybody is in a love mood... kissing, sending valentines carts, etc.
Valentines Day, > People In Love
We muslim dont need this "Day" ... Love to Muslims is a Different Love to the Unbelievers,
The Unbelievers their Love is based on... Sleeping with eachother, kissing etc.
they dont have the Respect we have for "Love",
They sleep with 7 different persons each month... Is that Love?
Woman get Payed by man if they sleep with them.. Is that Love?
Guys see a girl walking on the street, and they think its fine and so they say to themselfs "Im in love" ..Well I wonder is that Love?
Love is based on respect.. it doesnt even mean something physical.
We Muslims dont need this Valentine Day... It's the Day of the Devil.
This so called Love, is the Love of the Devil... do you want to be loved by the Devil?
Forget this Day, Forget this so called Love...
You should Focus on the love Of Allah (swt) be worried If He loves you...
Because If Allah (swt) loves you... than you need nothing more.
You dont need a Girlfriend who can give you " Love " Love on this world is nothing but a word. . Love from Allah (swt) is everything.
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:12 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:18 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:59 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:01 pm
You are right and wrong. Payment for sex is not common practice for "nonbelievers". That's called prostitution, which is fairly uncommon, comparatively.
What you are talking about is the capitalistic love that is bottled and sold to you.
It is sold in the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the scent you spray on. It's a symbol of status or power meant to attract a sexual partner. The capitalists can not sell true love, so they market sex as love to gain profit.
Much of the system plays on our wants and needs, and seeing as capitalism can never satisfy them, it sells us cheap imitations instead and tells us that we should be happy with that.
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:41 pm
There's a history about Valentines Day and Islam. That's why the Muslims is forbid from celebrating Valentines Day. It is also like another dark past of Islam. I could not really remember. .__." Need to find it though.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:25 pm
divineseraph You are right and wrong. Payment for sex is not common practice for "nonbelievers". That's called prostitution, which is fairly uncommon, comparatively. What you are talking about is the capitalistic love that is bottled and sold to you. It is sold in the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the scent you spray on. It's a symbol of status or power meant to attract a sexual partner. The capitalists can not sell true love, so they market sex as love to gain profit. Much of the system plays on our wants and needs, and seeing as capitalism can never satisfy them, it sells us cheap imitations instead and tells us that we should be happy with that. Like I said the new meaning of the word love. Wierd example but true.. Chris Brown > Take U Down. He Sings; " Let me take you down, and show you what my LOVES about "
Now thats the New Modern so called love of this time,
However we Muslims dont see it like this at all.
and its not so hard our needs or wants, its just the new meaning of the word "Love" ... So there's no such thing as capitalistic love, thats only when people go with each other because of their status.
But the normal love we are facing nowadays, is based on meat.
Girls.. Halfnaked > Boys Sixpack etc.
Im not saying boys shouldnt train, no.. Its better if you do I self do kickbox.. I try to keep my body in shape boost my muscles up.. not so that I can look good for the girls.. just to live a healthy life..
People feel love with their Eyes and Brains.
but they should feel it with their hearts.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:29 pm
dTranquility There's a history about Valentines Day and Islam. That's why the Muslims is forbid from celebrating Valentines Day. It is also like another dark past of Islam. I could not really remember. .__." Need to find it though.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:55 pm
Love doesn't exist...
Love for family exist, but pure love?
That is lust and Valentines Day is full of lust...
When one gets married I just think that they love each other but, they are not IN love...
And since I don't believe in Pure Love, I guess in my cynical point of view, that I blame the Devil in the temptation...
Now I am getting carried away to some other topic...
Great, now Amy's cynical personality is taking over me.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:48 pm
Jin Saga dTranquility There's a history about Valentines Day and Islam. That's why the Muslims is forbid from celebrating Valentines Day. It is also like another dark past of Islam. I could not really remember. .__." Need to find it though. Wat? Seriously, what? Are you puffing the pipe?
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:50 pm
Jin Saga divineseraph You are right and wrong. Payment for sex is not common practice for "nonbelievers". That's called prostitution, which is fairly uncommon, comparatively. What you are talking about is the capitalistic love that is bottled and sold to you. It is sold in the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the scent you spray on. It's a symbol of status or power meant to attract a sexual partner. The capitalists can not sell true love, so they market sex as love to gain profit. Much of the system plays on our wants and needs, and seeing as capitalism can never satisfy them, it sells us cheap imitations instead and tells us that we should be happy with that. Like I said the new meaning of the word love. Wierd example but true.. Chris Brown > Take U Down. He Sings; " Let me take you down, and show you what my LOVES about "
Now thats the New Modern so called love of this time,
However we Muslims dont see it like this at all.
and its not so hard our needs or wants, its just the new meaning of the word "Love" ... So there's no such thing as capitalistic love, thats only when people go with each other because of their status.
But the normal love we are facing nowadays, is based on meat.
Girls.. Halfnaked > Boys Sixpack etc.
Im not saying boys shouldnt train, no.. Its better if you do I self do kickbox.. I try to keep my body in shape boost my muscles up.. not so that I can look good for the girls.. just to live a healthy life..
People feel love with their Eyes and Brains.
but they should feel it with their hearts.
The lust when used to market is twisted and utilized and called "love". It is not true love, it is lust called love by capitalists to sell products. Thus, it is capitalistic love.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:47 pm
Jin Saga dTranquility There's a history about Valentines Day and Islam. That's why the Muslims is forbid from celebrating Valentines Day. It is also like another dark past of Islam. I could not really remember. .__." Need to find it though. Dude... Seriously... Valentines Day is connected to Islam. It's about the fall of Islam. I could not remember the story. That's why we can't celebrate it. Because there is HISTORY.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:48 am
Assalammu'alaykum, everyone. Quote: Al-Isra:36 And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning). Valentine's history: There's Lupercalia ritual in ancient Rome every 13-18 February as an archaic rite connected to fertility. When Catholic came to Rome, they change/fill the ritual with Christianity. On February 14th, 270, St. Valentine was killed by Emperor Claudius II. Christian church then decided to celebrate Valentine's feast day in the middle of February in an effort to 'christianize' celebrations of the pagan Lupercalia festival. Version 1: Claudius was impressed by Valentine and had a discussion with him, attempting to get him to convert to Roman paganism in order to save his life. Valentine refused and tried to convert Claudius to Christianity instead. Version 2: Emperor Claudius II decided that single men made better soldiers than those with wives and families, he outlawed marriage for young men — his crop of potential soldiers. Valentine, realizing the injustice of the decree, defied Claudius and continued to perform marriages for young lovers in secret. When Valentine's actions were discovered, Claudius ordered that he be put to death. Why we must not celebrate it? 1. the source/history of Valentine Day is part of Christian Religious Ceremony, and obviously not came from Islam. Prophet Muhammad "Whoever imitates a group, then he is from amongst them" 2. To love is a good thing, but why must celebrate it on a day only? why use Valentine as our orientation while Islam tell us to always love each other and care for everyone forever. If Valentine Day is a day to love and care for each other, then everyday is a Valentine Day for us. Prophet Muhammad None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother that which he loves for himself. 3. Normally, Valentine Day is celebrated in a form of big party and mostly a waste without much meaning. Al-Isra:27 Verily spendthrifts are brothers of the Evil Ones; and the Evil One is to his Lord (himself) ungrateful. These are the reason I know. I'm having a little hard time translating into English (find the good words), so I'm sorry if I might have said something wrong.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:26 am
Love is a brain reaction.
In danish there is a word "Åndsvag". For someone who have no feelings for anything.
It's a handicap because something is wrong with the brain.
intercourse got nothing to do with it. it can be a way to show your love, and a way of enjoying.
Does it makes sence?
About valentinesday. it can be used for both things. but muslims love is diffrent from most of the other peoples.
Their love goes from another place, ours goes from another. smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 pm
dTranquility Jin Saga dTranquility There's a history about Valentines Day and Islam. That's why the Muslims is forbid from celebrating Valentines Day. It is also like another dark past of Islam. I could not really remember. .__." Need to find it though. Dude... Seriously... Valentines Day is connected to Islam. It's about the fall of Islam. I could not remember the story. That's why we can't celebrate it. Because there is HISTORY. Yes Sorry, you've got me wrong, I didnt mean Islam doesnt know it as the day it self .. Just that that Day has no meaning for us nowadays, So therefor people should not pay attention to this Day.
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