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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:37 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:30 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:46 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:54 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:01 pm
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Tattoos have been observed in many cultures around the world for many different reasons. It is believed that the activity of tattooing is more than 5000 years old. Tattoos have been used as rights of passage, proof of identity, group/tribal identity, personal art and many other reasons. Tattoos have been observed in most ancient and modern cultures, including Egypt, Ancienr Rome and Greece, Indonesia, Japan, China, Celtic, New Zealand, Polynesia, Tailand, India, Africa, as well as England and France.
In modern times, people get tattoos for many reasons. It could be a memorial, a preffered design, a mark of identity, or just for fun. I personally have 4 tattoos. The first one is a wolf, and to me it symbolizes my courage and integrity. The second are two rats, which I have in memorial to my pet rats who have passed on. The third is a kitten that I got because I thought it was adorable and I love cats. The last is a lucario, because I've always been a fan of Pokemon and wanted something to show it.
I get very excited when i think about getting new tattoos. I see my body as a canvas and I am always looking for new art to put on it (in easy to hide places, of course.) I am addicted to getting tattoos. I love them. I love what they mean to me, I love their history and I love the guys who tattoo, I've met some pretty cool tattoo artists. For me to be sure I can live with a tattoo forever, I think about how long I've liked the particular animal/design/concept and think about if I will continue to like it in the future. I'll always love wolves, rats and cats, so even if the symbology fades away, at least they are animals I like.
I don't think tattoos and peircings interfere in a job search if you are smart about it. Put your tattoos where you can hide them, take your piercings out at work, or find a tattoo/peircing friendly place to work.
When I see a person with a tattoo, I usually think about what that must mean to them. I usually ask about them when I see ones I particularly like.
I don't think tattoos will ever be too mainstream. They have such a long and diverse history that I doubt humanity will ever outgrow them.
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:13 pm
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Rainey_angel81 What are your thoughts on why someone gets a tattoo? Various reasons. The main 2, I think, are self-expression and rebelling against an authority figure.
Rainey_angel81 Do you think that tattooing is another way of self-mutilation? Personally, no, but technically it could be considered such. I mean, you're injecting ink into your skin. You weren't born with it. Wouldn't that, by definition, count as self-mutilation?
Rainey_angel81 Why do you think people turn to mutilation or body art rather than other outlets? Partially shock value, I think. I've heard from some of my friends that have tattoos that getting them felt good because they got a shot of endorphins during the process; some people could be addicted to that.
Rainey_angel81 Do you think that having tattoos or multiple piercings inhibit chances of getting a job? Depends on the field and the interviewer.
Rainey_angel81 What do you think when you see someone with a tattoo? I wonder what the story behind the tattoo is.
Rainey_angel81 Would you ever get one? (if you haven't already) No, for several reasons. First and foremost, I'm a wuss; second, I'm too flighty, and could never decide on a tattoo that I'd want on my body for the rest of my life. I'd rather just draw on myself with a pen, or use henna that lasts about a month at most.
Rainey_angel81 What would you get? and why? If I absolutely had to get a tattoo, it'd probably be an Egyptian scarab. I've always been wildly interested in ancient Egypt & Egyptian mythology (the scarab is the symbol of the god Khepri, who symbolizes rebirth, renewal, and resurrection), so I think the scarab would make a good tattoo for me.
Rainey_angel81 Do you think that tattoos are a self-expression or are they too mainstream nowadays? I think they're still mostly about self-expression; there are, however, many, many frat boys/sorority whores (disclaimer: if you take offense to the labels, you're not among the ones I'm talking about) walking around with tribal armbands or generic Chinese/Japanese lettering that they can't even read, so for them, it's all about mainstream. And then there are people like my grandfather, who got his forearm tattoo while he was in the Navy after he lost a card game. X3
A friend of mine brought up a really good point about choosing a tattoo: take the design you want, put it in a place where you'll see it every day, and leave it there for at least 6 months. Then, if you still like it, go and get it put on your body, because then you'll know if you will enjoy seeing it on your body. Don't know how accurate that is, but I thought it was a good idea.
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:48 pm
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Rainey_angel81 Do you think that having tattoos or multiple piercings inhibit chances of getting a job?
Depends on the job, it can enhance a stripper's demand for example. ninja
Rainey_angel81 What do you think when you see someone with a tattoo?
That depends on the person and the tattoo. If the tattoo is generally small and enhances their looks, then I probably wouldn't think less of them. If it covers their entire body...ehhh...then it depends on the tattoo. It'd be a mix of "that's pretty cool!" and "uhhh...why did they DO that?" However, gender also comes into the equation. If it's a guy who has great tattoos that enhances his appearance than distracts or detracts, then I'd probably be super shy and nervous and stuff as I try to stare without being noticed. x3 ...all other instances revert back to "neutral" though.
Rainey_angel81 Would you ever get one? (if you haven't already)
I'd never get a tattoo. I'm terrified of needles. That's the one thing that keeps me from donating blood, which I feel terrible for being too terrified to do something like that. But yeah, I couldn't ever get a tattoo or a piercing. I'd probably just have clip-ons for piercings. x3
Rainey_angel81 What would you get? and why?
IF I were to get a tattoo, it might be one of those meaningless decorative tattoos like the tribal stuff. Doesn't have to be tribal though, or even meaningless. I just don't ever see myself getting a name, a face, or anything "in the moment" tattooed on myself though. I might, say, get an abstracted image of something that could be...erm... somehow reinterpreted in time if the reason for getting the tattoo changed to being a negative thing in the future, like for a boyfriend who later broke up with me or something. (Though I'm smart enough not to get a tattoo for a boyfriend without being married. Gov may not recognize it, but the ceremony would still happen and in word it would have happened.)
Rainey_angel81 Do you think that tattoos are a self-expression or are they too mainstream nowadays?
Eventually everything will become mainstream and those who attempt to be different and cutting edge are scouted out by companies so that they can stay ahead of the curve and sell this image/look/whatever to larger audiences. There's very little that can be done about it. If it isn't mainstream now, it will be in the future. Temporary/easily removable forms of tattooing would only make it more likely as well.
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:55 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:03 pm
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People get tattoos for the same reason (in my view) they get piercings - that is, bodily adornment or to make a statement of some sort, possibly to shock - or, in some circumstances, as a sort of mark of commemoration or respect for someone (e.g., having the name, birth date and death date of a beloved relative).
I wouldn't call tattoos "mutilation", unless they're either really bad or forced upon the bearer, like they used to do in POW camps when a prisoner was suspected of collaboration (a big T on the forehead), or like the ID tattoos we're all familiar with from the Third Reich.
Lessee... Tattoos, like any body ornamentation, may or may not inhibit job-getting. If they're visible, and draw attention to themselves, yeah, they probably will. If you have (let's say) the sacred heart on your back, who's going to know, until/unless you take off your shirt? One of my roomies has unit tattoos on his shoulders from his Army service, same thing.
Most of the time, if I see someone with tattoos I haven't first met, I tend to think: not a person with particularly good judgment, beware. This increases with the visibility of the tattoo, to be honest.
I will never, ever get a tattoo (willingly). First, there's a religious injunction against it. Second, there are health reasons why not (even a good, clean tattoo artist might ******** up and somehow get you infected with someone else's bits). Third, I've been stuck with enough pointy objects not to want to willingly submit to the same.
As for self-expression, I think tattoos are a legit form thereof; but if all you have to express is conformity, that's kind of a waste. neutral
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:57 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:10 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:37 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:36 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:40 am
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Garek Maxwell I'd never get a tattoo. I'm terrified of needles. That's the one thing that keeps me from donating blood, which I feel terrible for being too terrified to do something like that. But yeah, I couldn't ever get a tattoo or a piercing. I'd probably just have clip-ons for piercings. x3
Actually, piercers usually use piercing guns now, and it takes a split second. It does hurt a lot right afterward, but only for a few seconds (at least, in my experience, and I'm very sensitive to pain), and then you're good to go. I'm a wuss, too, so when I got my ears pierced, I had them do both ears at the same time. X3
Rainey_angel81 I meant mutilation as in...feeling the relief from the pain. I don't know who has been or ever was a cutter, but the cutting seemed almost like a relief. Trade one pain for another and it cancels the constant ache. In this case..you're relieving that pain, canceling it and in its place is something beautiful (in some cases)
I mentioned the endorphin thing in my post, too. Or were you referring to emotional relief, rather than physical?
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