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The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:56 am


Asalam Alaykum biggrin

While i was learning Allahs names i stood on a word called King in english and Al-Malik in arabic.

Arab people call their king Malik(By the name of Allah), my friend told me. Soo isen't that haram?

Malik also means the owner of everything my friend said too

Well in latin king is just a word for the royal leader, not Allah. Soo king is not haram.... But Malik, isen't that haram?

ANSWER!!!!!!!!!


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According to Islamic tradition, a Muslim may not be given any of the 99 names of God in the exact same form. For example, nobody may be named al-Malik (The King), but may be named Malik (King). This is because of the belief that God is almighty, and no human being is the equivalent of God, and no human being will ever be the equivalent of God. Muslims are allowed to use the 99 names of Allah for themselves but should not put 'Al' at the front of them.

However the names/attributes of God can be combined with the word "‘Abd -" which means "servant/slave" (of God) and are commonly used as personal names among Muslims. For example ‘Abd ar-Raḥmān ("Servant of the Most Compassionate/the Beneficent"). The two parts of the name may be written separately (as above) or combined as one transliterated name; in such a case, the vowel transcribed after ‘Abd is often written as u when the two words are transcribed as one: e.g., Abdurrahman, Abdul'aziz, "Abdul-Jabbar," or even Abdullah ("Servant of God"). (This has to do with Arabic case vowels, the final u vowel showing the normal "quote" nominative/vocative case form: ‘abdu.)

Some Muslim people have names resembling those 99. Examples include

Ra'ouf, such as Ra'ouf Mus'ad.
Salam, such as Salam Fayyad.
Kareem, such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:12 am


mmm i dont think so coz when u call some1 malik or malk its like u just honor and great him not calling him allah and i dont think that the meaning of the word differ whether it was in arabic or in english

x_ferotheinnocentdevil_x


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:34 am


In arabic it means The one who owns everything, and in arabic countries the kings are also dictators wink

King in Europe is just a random latin word with no other meaning.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:47 am


idk but king and malik is just the sam meaning 2 me

x_ferotheinnocentdevil_x


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:08 am


it is not, ok?

Plus, Malik is Allahs name razz
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:14 am


i will tell u somthin when u call some1 malik thats not his real name its like an adjective
its like when u say im the 1st(Al-Awwal) or the last(Al-Akhir )so thats haram 2??and these 2 names r allah's names 2

x_ferotheinnocentdevil_x


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:19 am


Hmm, maybe? That's why i'm asking ^_^
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:45 am


mmm i dont think so we just wanted 2 Characterized by qualities of God and thats wat he told us 2 do (ofcourse we wont b like god but we r just tryin 2 b Merciful forgiving ect. but in the human being way biggrin )and its like when u say this thing is mine so u r the owner(malik) of this thing u control it u have the power over it but god owns(malik) u and all the things in the universe so thats wat i think biggrin

x_ferotheinnocentdevil_x


Three Mile Sprint

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:40 am


King is simply a title used in Europe to mean a person who own's and runs the land and all things within it.

The word Malik does not mean "king" it is simply the closest translation to it in English.

There is no need to worry.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:48 am


i don't think it zaaki, it is not haram.. cos ALLAH is owner of all of the world, earth humans sea galaxi everyyyythiing & malik means owner & ALLAH is owner of me, you, earth, sky, everything.. maybe i couldn't understand your post exactly but .. malik means owner in my language.. it means ALLAH owns on all of things in the world (--> when you say ALLAH is malik means ALLAH is owner of all of the world)

joody_abot


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:55 am


aha... well some pakistani cricket players got the name Malik ....

But isen't it still wrong calling a human in the name of Allah?

That's like if u called a child "Allah". Woulden't that be wrong?

Malik and Allah is the same.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:57 am


I FOUND THIS IN WIKIPEDIA biggrin THE ANSWER I GUESS ^_^


According to Islamic tradition, a Muslim may not be given any of the 99 names of God in the exact same form. For example, nobody may be named al-Malik (The King), but may be named Malik (King). This is because of the belief that God is almighty, and no human being is the equivalent of God, and no human being will ever be the equivalent of God. Muslims are allowed to use the 99 names of Allah for themselves but should not put 'Al' at the front of them.

However the names/attributes of God can be combined with the word "‘Abd -" which means "servant/slave" (of God) and are commonly used as personal names among Muslims. For example ‘Abd ar-Raḥmān ("Servant of the Most Compassionate/the Beneficent"). The two parts of the name may be written separately (as above) or combined as one transliterated name; in such a case, the vowel transcribed after ‘Abd is often written as u when the two words are transcribed as one: e.g., Abdurrahman, Abdul'aziz, "Abdul-Jabbar," or even Abdullah ("Servant of God"). (This has to do with Arabic case vowels, the final u vowel showing the normal "quote" nominative/vocative case form: ‘abdu.)

Some Muslim people have names resembling those 99. Examples include

Ra'ouf, such as Ra'ouf Mus'ad.
Salam, such as Salam Fayyad.
Kareem, such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

The_Pathan
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joody_abot

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:45 am


3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:27 am


my mom told me if u wanna use the name of allah u have to put abdi first like abdisalam or abdighaffar

shawty is hood with it


shawty is hood with it

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:30 am


i think it is harram brother neutral
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