Conversion FN Five-SeveN

[Valkyrie Hatter]

Tell me this wouldn't be a relatively good idea since Glock already has their Model 18 and Beretta had their 93R.

A Five SeveN that has semi, burst fire and full auto capability. Along with a standard package that gives a compensated barrel, removeable folding foregrip like Beretta's 93R that fits on the picatanny rail under the barrel, and a semi collapsable stock or hell a stock like H&Ks VP70's only it can serve as a holster and carrying case as well like with the C96 pistol's.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

p90  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

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p90

*Yawn* It's potential has been set.  

[Requiem ex Inferni]

It would do nothing the P90 doesn't already do.  

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Glock has the best foregrip design, save one point.




It tends to fall off during firing, which generally ends with a bullet in the shooter's hand. But that's a problem with the clamp, not the grip itself. It folds up really well, actually.

But really, the P90 is superior in pretty much every way.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory. Burst fire would have a better usage with a 5.7mm weapon since they have low stopping power.

There's a video of a guy shooting a G18 with a grip that fell off during firing causing him to shoot his own hand.  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

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Burst fire would have a better usage with a 5.7mm weapon since they have low stopping power.

Which is exactly what you want when your weapon has a thirty round magazine, meh accuracy, and bucks like an angry bronco.

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There's a video of a guy shooting a G18 with a grip that fell off during firing causing him to shoot his own hand.

Right, that's a combination of the Glock-style plastic rail and the ineffectual locking mechanism on the grip. It's a relatively simple fix if you put two minutes' thought into it.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

look...if the m93 didn't catch on for being so supposedly ingenious.....  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.

I guess the Glock 18 isn't cool enough to be as popular as a T gun.  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.

I guess the Glock 18 isn't cool enough to be as popular as a T gun.

Not old enough, probably. From what I've heard, the 18C is surprisingly controllable, even if it does take about one goddamn second to empty the entire magazine. xd  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.

I only fired the full size one and it was ok.

but if it's anything like a mac11 I can understand why. the mac only takes like a second to dump the mag too

I find that both the uzi and the mac with the stocks extended it feels so ******** awkward, it feels like youre holding it way high up  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.

An 8 year old kid. The media had a field day with that.  

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The general idea of a machine pistol is a pistol size package with the bite of an SMG. So far Berretta is the only one that has given something satisfactory.

Glock would like to talk to you...

I suppose IMI and Cobray would like to as well?

@Recon: It's pretty much the only burst fire pistol and everyone seems to remember it. Burst fire seems more controlable than full auto IMO.

Nah, ******** T-guns and their high centers of gravity. Recoil on the micro-uzi is so bad that some local kid shot himself in the head a year or two ago because of the muzzle flip.

I only fired the full size one and it was ok.

but if it's anything like a mac11 I can understand why. the mac only takes like a second to dump the mag too

I find that both the uzi and the mac with the stocks extended it feels so ******** awkward, it feels like youre holding it way high up

Well, I was referring to firing them without the stock. With the stock, T-guns become much more controllable, but without, they're broncos on steroids. The G18C, as it comes from the factory, has been described as the most controllable machine pistol ever made.