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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:14 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:19 pm
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ok sorry for being wierd+confuzing
honestly, the potion is for biological immortality. i plan on filtering the particles of spice after a while and drinking at least a certain number of drops of it, even though its gonna be saturated in many eye watering intense flavors XD, odds are
it wont work, or if it does some a** will try to kill me for being immortal, but what i want to do others have failed at im sure so ti wouldnt be so simple anyways. i have um odd random goals and life is boring right now, idk what i want but i like to learn but i cant focus on more than one thing at a time easily.
so i want to be immortal so i can learn XD, or i want to astral and i havent been doing well with that or meditation, but i suppose its loud here is the main reason.
my family isnt very spiritual, and im half new to this, half researched a bunch of stuff. but have no guidance, no teacher, not liek i would know who to trust either.
and i think im wasting my time here, i think alot of time is wasted. and the future is uncertain. i want to learn alot, be healthy live long, even not age would be nice, and id like to teach as well. but then id have to deal with all sorts of circumstances, all my dreams not really realistic, i dont support the current governments, so i dont want a job like how it is now, id want to go to a community. wouldnt know which one. i want to do so much its retarded, why couldnt the average schools do magic or astrology or anything.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:38 pm
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Azareas Aquarinus Maybe your conception of magic is something entirely different to how we see it: A natural energy, in everyone, all nature and the power of the universe. Magic can be used by anyone, and one's will and intent is the core of the power you're using. Magic is used to cause needed change. This doesn't make sense to me- if you can replace the word magic with Atoms and it still makes perfect sense- then why would you need the word magic?
Quote: It's stupid and ignorant if you do "Bad" spells. Spells to harm someone or force them against their will, will instantly backfire on you. That's how it works. You kind of called a bunch of people you don't know stupid and ignorant- working with both hands is a long standing tradition in several religions.
Immortal Kei ok sorry for being wierd+confuzing honestly, the potion is for biological immortality. i plan on filtering the particles of spice after a while and drinking at least a certain number of drops of it, even though its gonna be saturated in many eye watering intense flavors XD, odds are Bodies die. We can't reverse the effects of aging on the body with science- so a mix of spices and bodily fluids aren't going to do it.
Quote: so i want to be immortal so i can learn XD, My advice is if you want to learn- put down the petri dish turned potion and pick up a book. You'll do a lot more for yourself with that then mixing random spices together.
Quote: why couldnt the average schools do magic or astrology or anything. A lot of schools teach the products of older forms of magic and astrology- now it's called math, chemistry and astronomy. Having a good understanding of those and psychology will do a world of good for learning magic.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:45 pm
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Esiris Azareas Aquarinus Maybe your conception of magic is something entirely different to how we see it: A natural energy, in everyone, all nature and the power of the universe. Magic can be used by anyone, and one's will and intent is the core of the power you're using. Magic is used to cause needed change. This doesn't make sense to me- if you can replace the word magic with Atoms and it still makes perfect sense- then why would you need the word magic? Quote: It's stupid and ignorant if you do "Bad" spells. Spells to harm someone or force them against their will, will instantly backfire on you. That's how it works. You kind of called a bunch of people you don't know stupid and ignorant- working with both hands is a long standing tradition in several religions.
I used the word magic to explain it better. I know it's scientific.
If he's working in a context of Paganism, or Neo-Paganism, and is a beginner, he should know it's an insult to do a bad spell in the presence of certain deities, and the fact he can use it, doesn't mean he should use it for everything.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:53 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:56 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:03 pm
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Azareas Aquarinus If he's working in a context of Paganism, or Neo-Paganism, and is a beginner, he should know it's an insult to do a bad spell in the presence of certain deities, and the fact he can use it, doesn't mean he should use it for everything. As a beginner to Neo-Paganism, you're not one to talk, especially considering some of the deities you've paired off in your "rituals".
And I'll thank you to watch what you say. Thus far, I've probably been one of the only ones here you haven't indirectly insulted. Well congrats, you've done so.
I am a witch, and I have done whatever spells I've found necessary be them "Good" or "bad", as your inexperienced mind and vocabulary has so incorrectly categorized. My spells have worked exactly as I've intended them, no matter what they were.
So I will thank you to NOT call me stupid or ignorant. If anyone here is ignorant, it would most definitely be you.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:16 pm
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Esiris Azareas Aquarinus If he's working in a context of Paganism, or Neo-Paganism, and is a beginner, he should know it's an insult to do a bad spell in the presence of certain deities, and the fact he can use it, doesn't mean he should use it for everything. I don't know how to put this- and rather than jump to conclusions, it might just be better for me to ask some questions. Which gods is it offensive to do those spells before? Why does magic have to include gods? What kinds of paganism is this true for? What makes a bad spell bad? If he did a ritual, a neo-pagan one, and it was for spell purposes, and did something offensive by harming someone through a spell, then whatever deities he chose to use, he could've insulted the deity. I'm just putting forth an example.
Sometimes people use a deity for specific reasons, or call on them if they need their loaned powers, or are certain things being asked of the deity. E.g: A spell for protection, one would call on a god used for protection.
A bad spell, or something of negative intent, doing something evil to a living being through magical intention and energy. Forcing them against their will or harming them.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:21 pm
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Azareas Aquarinus Esiris Azareas Aquarinus If he's working in a context of Paganism, or Neo-Paganism, and is a beginner, he should know it's an insult to do a bad spell in the presence of certain deities, and the fact he can use it, doesn't mean he should use it for everything. I don't know how to put this- and rather than jump to conclusions, it might just be better for me to ask some questions. Which gods is it offensive to do those spells before? Why does magic have to include gods? What kinds of paganism is this true for? What makes a bad spell bad? If he did a ritual, a neo-pagan one, and it was for spell purposes, and did something offensive by harming someone through a spell, then whatever deities he chose to use, he could've insulted the deity. I'm just putting forth an example. Sometimes people use a deity for specific reasons, or call on them if they need their loaned powers, or are certain things being asked of the deity. E.g: A spell for protection, one would call on a god used for protection. A bad spell, or something of negative intent, doing something evil to a living being through magical intention and energy. Forcing them against their will or harming them.
This is a major problem that you don't seem able to get past. Gods are not used. They especially are not ingredients in spells like herbs or candles or whatever.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:23 pm
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oOGarrettOo Azareas Aquarinus If he's working in a context of Paganism, or Neo-Paganism, and is a beginner, he should know it's an insult to do a bad spell in the presence of certain deities, and the fact he can use it, doesn't mean he should use it for everything. As a beginner to Neo-Paganism, you're not one to talk, especially considering some of the deities you've paired off in your "rituals". And I'll thank you to watch what you say. Thus far, I've probably been one of the only ones here you haven't indirectly insulted. Well congrats, you've done so. I am a witch, and I have done whatever spells I've found necessary be them "Good" or "bad", as your inexperienced mind and vocabulary has so incorrectly categorized. My spells have worked exactly as I've intended them, no matter what they were. So I will thank you to NOT call me stupid or ignorant. If anyone here is ignorant, it would most definitely be you. Sorry I offended you. I worded things in a way I shouldn't have.
I'm saying doing something bad to someone through a spell or magical intent, is ignorant because it backfires on you. The person who performs the spell is only making things worse upon themselves. Unless, I may be wrong there, and someone can harm someone through magcial intent.
And again I may be wrong here, but: I feel like I seem like a "beginner" to you. Or someone minor. I'm open to be educated, or learn things. But I go by my path and intuition. From Pagans I've met in person, and talked to, they've told me I'm a "Natural Witch". And I've met a coven priestess (an initated Wiccan friend of mine), and others.
I'm not saying you're doing this, but I've been told there are some "I'm better than you" groups out there.
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