Japanese nuclear reactor

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Video explaining various things  

[Maddness91]

haha i saw this clip earlier today...

My chem 1002 prof. used to work in the nuclear field, mostly in the refining plants, not so much in the actual power plants as basically a Chem. Engineer (he played with scale models of the plant and figured out how to increase productivity and such), but he commented on it a bit, and said that this plant is never going to be gone near again... it and the surrounding area is going to be a ghost town for the next century just like around Chernobyl... a better handled Chernobyl, so no giant radioactive cloud over japan, but non the less, it;s going to be a giant "don;t touch" zone that, if it keeps exploding, may encompass the entire city of Sendai, and further if the ground water gets super radiated... give or take, maybe...
Of course if all goes well and there's no more explosions, then radiation will level off and go away reasonably quickly and the plant it's self will prolly just be entombed like they did at Chernobyl (but better, obv.) and the "don;t touch" zone will be at a reasonable distance, and not crush the local towns and city's  

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I like periodic videos. They teach cool stuff.

I hope they don't have too much trouble with that reactor.  

[Maddness91]

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I hope they don't have too much trouble with that reactor.

Too much? xd yes it;s only almost melting down xp not to worry...  

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Maddness91

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I hope they don't have too much trouble with that reactor.

Too much? xd yes it;s only almost melting down xp not to worry...

Well you know what I mean. xd  

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I heard some major news source (CNN, I think) say that this was closer to Three Mile Island than Chernobyl. Sorry, you know the difference between the two? TMI was a water leak, Chernobyl was a ******** meltdown. Besides that, nobody outside of the TMI crew got more exposure than you'd get from watching the microwave cook for 60 seconds.  

[Maddness91]

it;s a mix of the 2... TMI, the core wasn;t ever totally uncontrollable... dai-ichi hasn;t just leaked water, today it;s started to leak other things (prolly due to the explosions, etc) and the water that they are pumping in has started to boil before it comes out the other side... this means that either the pumping system isn;t working properly, (i.e. in perfect land, water in -> hot water out) or the core is still heating, and still has the ability to melt down completely...

they started (well, prolly continue, but faster) to evac everyone in 20km (12.5 mi.) and i think ~50 people are remaining at the plant it;s self to monitor things and give direct information on the situation there...  

[Requiem ex Inferni]

Japan has s**t luck with nuclear energy. Which is a problem considering how much they actually need nuclear plants like Fukushima.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

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I heard some major news source (CNN, I think) say that this was closer to Three Mile Island than Chernobyl. Sorry, you know the difference between the two? TMI was a water leak, Chernobyl was a ******** meltdown. Besides that, nobody outside of the TMI crew got more exposure than you'd get from watching the microwave cook for 60 seconds.

oh gawd. I must have some sort of radiation poisoning now.


throughout my entire life i've probably watched the microwave for an accumulated total of 8 hours. mostly as a kid neutral  

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Requiem in Mortis

Japan has s**t luck with nuclear energy. Which is a problem considering how much they actually need nuclear plants like Fukushima.

Makes you wonder why they didn't go, oh, I dunno, geothermal? Their island is a goddamn chain of dormant volcanoes, it's not like they don't have the locations, and geothermal plants tend not to explode when put on a major fault line like nuclear plants do. For a stereotypical nation full of geniuses, I think that one was planned out by the tentacle monsters.  

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Maddness91

it;s a mix of the 2... TMI, the core wasn;t ever totally uncontrollable... dai-ichi hasn;t just leaked water, today it;s started to leak other things (prolly due to the explosions, etc) and the water that they are pumping in has started to boil before it comes out the other side... this means that either the pumping system isn;t working properly, (i.e. in perfect land, water in -> hot water out) or the core is still heating, and still has the ability to melt down completely...

they started (well, prolly continue, but faster) to evac everyone in 20km (12.5 mi.) and i think ~50 people are remaining at the plant it;s self to monitor things and give direct information on the situation there...

From what I remember, TMI was just a valve left open on accident. The reactor water overflow tank started filling, and nobody could tell because alarms were going off for complete bullshit, and masking the more serious alarms. After a while, the overflow tank hit critical and triggered its own overflow valve, emptying directly onto the floor of the main containment building. Nobody outside of the containment building got radiation poisoning, and considering that that building is massively ******** hot (like, over 200°F or someshit) during reactor operations, the only people who got exposed were the cleanup crew.  

[Artyom -Metro 2033-]

well i think they put it as a number 6 proplem not that reacore # 4 has a fire this is like chernobyl  

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tailsmen

well i think they put it as a number 6 proplem not that reacore # 4 has a fire this is like chernobyl

Nah, the USSR was retarded enough to use carbon in their reactor cores, which was not only the cause of the explosion (apparently carbon zip-kicks uranium fission), but it was also the burning substance in question. Anyone who's ever tried to put out magnesium can tell you, you do NOT ******** with a metal fire, it will chew you up and spit you out. Every common fire extinguisher just makes magnesium angrier.  

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tailsmen

well i think they put it as a number 6 proplem not that reacore # 4 has a fire this is like chernobyl

Nah, the USSR was retarded enough to use carbon in their reactor cores, which was not only the cause of the explosion (apparently carbon zip-kicks uranium fission), but it was also the burning substance in question. Anyone who's ever tried to put out magnesium can tell you, you do NOT ******** with a metal fire, it will chew you up and spit you out. Every common fire extinguisher just makes magnesium angrier.

If I recall they make special fire extinguishers for class D (metal) fires. Then again getting enough of the chemicals to flood a reactor may not be easy.  

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tailsmen

well i think they put it as a number 6 proplem not that reacore # 4 has a fire this is like chernobyl

Nah, the USSR was retarded enough to use carbon in their reactor cores, which was not only the cause of the explosion (apparently carbon zip-kicks uranium fission), but it was also the burning substance in question. Anyone who's ever tried to put out magnesium can tell you, you do NOT ******** with a metal fire, it will chew you up and spit you out. Every common fire extinguisher just makes magnesium angrier.

If I recall they make special fire extinguishers for class D (metal) fires. Then again getting enough of the chemicals to flood a reactor may not be easy.

They do now, but they were a new technology when Chernobyl happened. Even today they're rather uncommon, and only stocked in places where metal fires are likely.

Oh ********, apparently there's a graphite-based class D extinguisher. Can you imagine the kind of heat needed to light a fire extinguisher material on fire? O_O