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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:47 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:54 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:24 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:07 am
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I see, thanks for rephrasing smile .
The direction I'm coming from - I've been a pagan for a long time now and, recently, my practice has waned. There was nothing to tie me to it. A few nights ago I had a dream about a dragon and I got the feeling that it was coaxing me into...something. I'm not sure. I want to follow it, to where it was leading I think.
I want to learn about any and all dragons. I've always enjoyed stories about them, from lots of countries and places, since I was very young. I feel like learning about all of them would do them justice, rather than just picking and choosing myself.
I think, initially, I would look into myths and legends from my own country. Start locally and gradually widen my search for foreign stories.
I feel (I maybe totally wrong) that a dragon, as thought of now, is a spiritual being. They don't necessarily exist as a physical being but as ancient and wise entities. I think that I could learn a lot about the past, how to handle myself now, and how I could conduct myself in the future.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:43 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:12 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:07 am
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Esiris I think there's a real psychological need for people to "tame" the threatening parts of mythology- especially pagans who might have reactions to people already thinking they're practicing something evil in their religion. So fairies go from being creatures of dread that drown travelers and abduct children to cute little naked people with wings and dragons go from the kinds of beings that lay waste to whole lands to people's pet lizards. And I think to a certain extent- that's fine. There's nothing wrong with dressing up some kind of thought form in an appealing appearance- but I think the problem comes in when someone wants to do that and ends up getting a hold of the real thing, no matter if it's a fairy, a demon, a dragon or a god- any of whom can be pissed off that someone isn't giving them the right respect.
I think this is pretty much spot-on. There's also the entitlement factor - people don't like to be told they can't have something. So they change things to their liking, to make them achievable, whether or not it's right, logical, effective, or even realistic.
I will say I have had encounters with entities that I, at least, percieve as dragons. They don't think or act like humans. For the most part, like f--ries, they want nothing to do with us, since the majority of us are small, slow, stupid, and astonishingly mundane. It's possible to interact with them, but not in the way many people would assume from fantasy novels - and they're certainly not just waiting at the edges of reality for magic users to call them into their service, as D.J Conway's atrociously awful book suggests.
If you go looking for dragons, go with spiritual allies. Try to be aware of boundaries and borders - territorial doesn't even begin to describe them. Do your best to maintain some distance between you and them, until you're invited closer. They may lull you into a sense of familiarity - try not to fall into it, before it's explicitly expressed. Don't go empty-handed - gifts are important. And be on your toes - there is always a chance, even if they seem open to your presence, that they'll be feeling you out mentally and magically. They will also expect you to do the same, if you aren't afraid to.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:12 am
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Morgandria Esiris I think there's a real psychological need for people to "tame" the threatening parts of mythology- especially pagans who might have reactions to people already thinking they're practicing something evil in their religion. So fairies go from being creatures of dread that drown travelers and abduct children to cute little naked people with wings and dragons go from the kinds of beings that lay waste to whole lands to people's pet lizards. And I think to a certain extent- that's fine. There's nothing wrong with dressing up some kind of thought form in an appealing appearance- but I think the problem comes in when someone wants to do that and ends up getting a hold of the real thing, no matter if it's a fairy, a demon, a dragon or a god- any of whom can be pissed off that someone isn't giving them the right respect. I think this is pretty much spot-on. There's also the entitlement factor - people don't like to be told they can't have something. So they change things to their liking, to make them achievable, whether or not it's right, logical, effective, or even realistic. I will say I have had encounters with entities that I, at least, percieve as dragons. They don't think or act like humans. For the most part, like f--ries, they want nothing to do with us, since the majority of us are small, slow, stupid, and astonishingly mundane. It's possible to interact with them, but not in the way many people would assume from fantasy novels - and they're certainly not just waiting at the edges of reality for magic users to call them into their service, as D.J Conway's atrociously awful book suggests. If you go looking for dragons, go with spiritual allies. Try to be aware of boundaries and borders - territorial doesn't even begin to describe them. Do your best to maintain some distance between you and them, until you're invited closer. They may lull you into a sense of familiarity - try not to fall into it, before it's explicitly expressed. Don't go empty-handed - gifts are important. And be on your toes - there is always a chance, even if they seem open to your presence, that they'll be feeling you out mentally and magically. They will also expect you to do the same, if you aren't afraid to. So maybe like how someone would go about working with a god they feel called to?
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:13 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:19 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:39 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:47 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:10 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:47 am
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