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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:18 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:06 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:26 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:10 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:17 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:06 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:42 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:54 pm
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They are Ojibwe in origin, but have spread through a lot of Northern and Eastern tribes as 'Native' practices began to blend in some cases. You don't see them as much in Southern or Western nations.
I haven't run into that idea of the use of dreamcatchers by non-Natives as misappropriation. It's a little different, maybe, for making them - they do have a proper method of construction, and it is really hard to do so without being a part of a Native religious culture. Which isn't to say you have to be Native - just that you should be a member of the culture in an active way.
I can see being frustrated by non-Natives making and selling dreamcatchers, but I'm having a hard time groking the 'don't use them unless you're Native' argument.
The web symbolism is deliberate. Spider Woman brought the sun back to the Anishnaabe by capturing it in her woven lodge - even now spiderwebs in the morning reflect the sun off the dew on the weave. Dreamcatchers are a symbol of how she continues to care for the People - the bad dreams are caught in her web and burn off in the morning sun. Since dreams are the way in which Spirit communicates with the Anishnaabe, and lets them know they are on the right way in life, it's important to keep that medium from being blocked or taken over by negative forces. The only things that are caught in the web are bad dreams. They are destroyed by the morning sun. Nothing stays permanently attached to the dreamcatcher itself.
I've never known or seen a negative reaction to giving a non-Native a dreamcatcher. I've made and given several as gifts to friends all over the place. They're a very identifiable symbol of Native Peoples here in Canada, at least, and something distinct they are proud to show and share with the world. The ones you can buy in shops are tricky, though - I'd want to know mine was Native-made, and not sweatshop labour from China.
I don't see why you couldn't create a webbed patterned object for similar reasons, but instead connected to a different religious path - if you could make it work within that path's lore.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:16 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:43 pm
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:40 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:14 am
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:45 pm
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:38 am
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whiporwill-o Azareas Aquarinus There are two in the house. One in the living room hung on the knob of the cupboard above the TV and one above my bed. I don't use or work with them both at all. They're just there, really. why bother having them then? Quote: @Whiporwill: I'm sorry to hear that. thanks, we're ok. we just got our electricity back about an hour ago. I feel like the one in my room has to be there. I've tried taking it down, but something's stopping me. So I don't know.
The one in the living room is useless, really. Probably just for decorative purposes.
That's good.
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