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 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:49 pm
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:35 pm
What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s.
Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round?
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:59 am
Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:14 am
Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 5:34 pm
Fresnel Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:33 am
Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH. Case in point: Project Thor, aka Rods from God.  Pseudo-nuclear explosion, zero volatile payload, no radiation or residue of any kind. Pure kinetics.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:52 am
Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH. A semi going 60 and a toyota corolla going 90 vs. a concrete barrier. The toyota gets totalled the semi smashed through and is probably still going.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:57 am
Valkyrie Hatter Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH. A semi going 60 and a toyota corolla going 90 vs. a concrete barrier. The toyota gets totalled the semi smashed through and is probably still going.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:59 am
Fresnel Valkyrie Hatter Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel What they didn't show is that both bullets were stopped by the cinder block. Those things are ******** incredible, they can stop any one bullet up to about .30-30, the second one destroys them, even if it's a pair of .380s. Also, this just doesn't make sense. Thinner and faster are ideal for penetration, so why does the thicker and slower bullet penetrate better? The only solution that comes to mind is that the composition of the bullets isn't the same... maybe they used a light copper surplus round versus a light steel core surplus round? I could have sworn I posted a thread addressing this... it was how slow .45acp penetrated much further than one of those small,fast projectiles used in the nambu pistol "light and fast dont mean s**t" was the thread. and it truly doesnt. it has to do more with weight and momentum For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH. A semi going 60 and a toyota corolla going 90 vs. a concrete barrier. The toyota gets totalled the semi smashed through and is probably still going. I can't speak much for the toyota then.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:17 pm
Valkyrie Hatter Fresnel Valkyrie Hatter Requiem in Mortis Fresnel For one, you're comparing arguably the greatest pistol ever made to easily the worst combat pistol to ever see battle. Second, k=1/2mv^2. Velocity is exponentially more important than mass. Pretty much this. A grain of sand accelerated to Mach 10 is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than a .5" slug going 700 MPH. A semi going 60 and a toyota corolla going 90 vs. a concrete barrier. The toyota gets totalled the semi smashed through and is probably still going. I can't speak much for the toyota then. If they both accordion against the barrier and light on fire, it's kind of a moot point.
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