Adams arms piston for M16A1

[Valkyrie Hatter]

First off does anybody here actually own an original M16A1 or XM16E1?

If you do give me an opinion: can the Adams Arms piston conversion for the 20 inch barrel length or an AR15 be used for an M16A1?  

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one day I may invest in a transferable M16a1 just for the lower.

I know the ones made by sendra are usually the cheapest

still way too much money

the m16a1 uppers are s**t so you might just wanna get a different one..
the super thin profile barrels are NOT ideal for full auto firing, idk why they even bothered making it full auto if it could barely handle it.

a dedicated piston upper may have a different BCG that wont work with the m16 lower so you might wanna stay away from that (the gas key is replaced by a solid piece and it most likely wont be cut for an m16's FCG)

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.


your best option is to just go with any DI AR15 upper of your choosing, convert it to piston, and use your M16 bolt carrier group with it.

and save the m16a1 upper to pretty much trash and do magdumps with so you wont have to abuse your good upper  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

another thing you could do is buy a pre 86 registered lightning link and install it on any AR15 of your choosing.  

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Yes, they can.  

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if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.  

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Recon_Ninja_985

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.

Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

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Recon_Ninja_985

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.

Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.

well you cant just do that. it wouldnt work unless it is specifically made to work in an m16

the BCG of an M16 is cut differently than an AR15's BCG



an m16 BCG will work in an AR15 but not the other way around when you go to put an AR BCG into an m16  

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Fresnel

Recon_Ninja_985

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.

Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.

well you cant just do that. it wouldnt work unless it is specifically made to work in an m16

the BCG of an M16 is cut differently than an AR15's BCG



an m16 BCG will work in an AR15 but not the other way around when you go to put an AR BCG into an m16

You can, however, find full auto BCGs on the civilian market, for not a whole lot more.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

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Recon_Ninja_985

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.

Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.

well you cant just do that. it wouldnt work unless it is specifically made to work in an m16

the BCG of an M16 is cut differently than an AR15's BCG



an m16 BCG will work in an AR15 but not the other way around when you go to put an AR BCG into an m16

You can, however, find full auto BCGs on the civilian market, for not a whole lot more.

never heard of a full auto BCG. nothing in a BCG makes it F/A. its all in the fire control group.

unless of course you mean it's cut for and treated to handle F/A  

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Fresnel

Recon_Ninja_985

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.

The only difference between the piston and DI bolts is the gas key, which can easily be changed out with the use of a hex wrench. Or star driver, I forget which. But yeah, one's got a tube, the other has a flat push plate.

Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.

well you cant just do that. it wouldnt work unless it is specifically made to work in an m16

the BCG of an M16 is cut differently than an AR15's BCG



an m16 BCG will work in an AR15 but not the other way around when you go to put an AR BCG into an m16

You can, however, find full auto BCGs on the civilian market, for not a whole lot more.

never heard of a full auto BCG. nothing in a BCG makes it F/A. its all in the fire control group

Yes, but certain BCGs are made to be used in full auto weapons.  

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Or just by swapping the whole BCG out.

well you cant just do that. it wouldnt work unless it is specifically made to work in an m16

the BCG of an M16 is cut differently than an AR15's BCG



an m16 BCG will work in an AR15 but not the other way around when you go to put an AR BCG into an m16

You can, however, find full auto BCGs on the civilian market, for not a whole lot more.

never heard of a full auto BCG. nothing in a BCG makes it F/A. its all in the fire control group

Yes, but certain BCGs are made to be used in full auto weapons.

yup, those are the ones that are cut and heat treated I believe to handle F/A  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

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one day I may invest in a transferable M16a1 just for the lower.

I know the ones made by sendra are usually the cheapest

still way too much money

the m16a1 uppers are s**t so you might just wanna get a different one..
the super thin profile barrels are NOT ideal for full auto firing, idk why they even bothered making it full auto if it could barely handle it.

a dedicated piston upper may have a different BCG that wont work with the m16 lower so you might wanna stay away from that (the gas key is replaced by a solid piece and it most likely wont be cut for an m16's FCG)

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.


your best option is to just go with any DI AR15 upper of your choosing, convert it to piston, and use your M16 bolt carrier group with it.

and save the m16a1 upper to pretty much trash and do magdumps with so you wont have to abuse your good upper

Know any companies that sell a good A1 style upper? Or possibly a way to just buy a new barrel and replace the old one that smells of carrots and cheap 7.62mm corrossive propellant?

Also the Adams Arms piston conversion isn't an upper. It's a set of parts that fixes inside the DI tube. Might jam up like a HK416 for all I know.  

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Valkyrie Hatter

Recon_Ninja_985

one day I may invest in a transferable M16a1 just for the lower.

I know the ones made by sendra are usually the cheapest

still way too much money

the m16a1 uppers are s**t so you might just wanna get a different one..
the super thin profile barrels are NOT ideal for full auto firing, idk why they even bothered making it full auto if it could barely handle it.

a dedicated piston upper may have a different BCG that wont work with the m16 lower so you might wanna stay away from that (the gas key is replaced by a solid piece and it most likely wont be cut for an m16's FCG)

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.


your best option is to just go with any DI AR15 upper of your choosing, convert it to piston, and use your M16 bolt carrier group with it.

and save the m16a1 upper to pretty much trash and do magdumps with so you wont have to abuse your good upper

Anyway to save the grips and just change the barrel? I kind of want to keep the birdcage flash suppressor.

Also the Adams Arms piston conversion isn't an upper. It's a set of parts that fixes inside the DI tube. Might jam up like a HK416 for all I know.

to my knowledge it's not a birdcage. it's the 3 prong "weedgrabber" flash hider

i'd do alot of research of how to refit a barrel, and you're going to need the barrel wrench and all necessary tools for getting off the gas tube and all that junk.

you wont be able to re use the triangular handguard retainer as it only fit on the thin barrel, youll need to buy one that fits on the govt profile, hbar or whichever barrel you decide to get and the handguards should work with that.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

Recon_Ninja_985

Valkyrie Hatter

Recon_Ninja_985

one day I may invest in a transferable M16a1 just for the lower.

I know the ones made by sendra are usually the cheapest

still way too much money

the m16a1 uppers are s**t so you might just wanna get a different one..
the super thin profile barrels are NOT ideal for full auto firing, idk why they even bothered making it full auto if it could barely handle it.

a dedicated piston upper may have a different BCG that wont work with the m16 lower so you might wanna stay away from that (the gas key is replaced by a solid piece and it most likely wont be cut for an m16's FCG)

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.


your best option is to just go with any DI AR15 upper of your choosing, convert it to piston, and use your M16 bolt carrier group with it.

and save the m16a1 upper to pretty much trash and do magdumps with so you wont have to abuse your good upper

Anyway to save the grips and just change the barrel? I kind of want to keep the birdcage flash suppressor.

Also the Adams Arms piston conversion isn't an upper. It's a set of parts that fixes inside the DI tube. Might jam up like a HK416 for all I know.

to my knowledge it's not a birdcage. it's the 3 prong "weedgrabber" flash hider

i'd do alot of research of how to refit a barrel, and you're going to need the barrel wrench and all necessary tools for getting off the gas tube and all that junk.

you wont be able to re use the triangular handguard retainer as it only fit on the thin barrel, youll need to buy one that fits on the govt profile, hbar or whichever barrel you decide to get and the handguards should work with that.

la France makes custom uppers in short configurations which is what I want so ill get them to make me my very own m16k with a heavy barrel. Call me a kid but I'm a fan of sbrs.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

Recon_Ninja_985

Valkyrie Hatter

Recon_Ninja_985

one day I may invest in a transferable M16a1 just for the lower.

I know the ones made by sendra are usually the cheapest

still way too much money

the m16a1 uppers are s**t so you might just wanna get a different one..
the super thin profile barrels are NOT ideal for full auto firing, idk why they even bothered making it full auto if it could barely handle it.

a dedicated piston upper may have a different BCG that wont work with the m16 lower so you might wanna stay away from that (the gas key is replaced by a solid piece and it most likely wont be cut for an m16's FCG)

if you do get one just make sure it's compatible with the m16 BCG because it's stronger and it's cut differently to accommodate the selector and FCG

OR if the BCG that comes with it is already compatible.


your best option is to just go with any DI AR15 upper of your choosing, convert it to piston, and use your M16 bolt carrier group with it.

and save the m16a1 upper to pretty much trash and do magdumps with so you wont have to abuse your good upper

Anyway to save the grips and just change the barrel? I kind of want to keep the birdcage flash suppressor.

Also the Adams Arms piston conversion isn't an upper. It's a set of parts that fixes inside the DI tube. Might jam up like a HK416 for all I know.

to my knowledge it's not a birdcage. it's the 3 prong "weedgrabber" flash hider

i'd do alot of research of how to refit a barrel, and you're going to need the barrel wrench and all necessary tools for getting off the gas tube and all that junk.

you wont be able to re use the triangular handguard retainer as it only fit on the thin barrel, youll need to buy one that fits on the govt profile, hbar or whichever barrel you decide to get and the handguards should work with that.

la France makes custom uppers in short configurations which is what I want so ill get them to make me my very own m16k with a heavy barrel. Call me a kid but I'm a fan of sbrs.