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 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:24 am
So, I'm home from boot camp. Apparently I have a personality disorder, and the symptoms disqualify me from military service for the moment. As such, I was given a general discharge under honorable conditions (I wasn't in the military long enough to qualify for an honorable discharge). However, I got an RE-3E as my re-entry code, which means that if I get therapy to improve my social skills I can enlist in the military again.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:10 pm
Kudos for owning up to a psych discharge. Most people just make up a medical affliction, like my "flat-footed" friend who's actually a total ******** basket case who shouldn't be allowed to touch a firearm.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:21 pm
Fresnel Kudos for owning up to a psych discharge. Most people just make up a medical affliction, like my "flat-footed" friend who's actually a total ******** basket case who shouldn't be allowed to touch a firearm. Well, my issues are with social skills, not impulse control or hearing voices or hallucinating or anything like that. I'm not crazy, I'm awkward. I'm not happy I was discharged (I REALLY wanted to be in the military), but I'm not ashamed about what I was discharged for. It's not my fault. Plus, I'm high functioning enough that if I get therapy to improve my social skills I qualify to attempt to enlist a second time. I do have to get a waiver from MEPS to do that, however, which won't be easy.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:35 pm
I don't know how it is in other branches of the military, but in the Navy us psych discharges (which the Navy calls Mental Separations) get our own barracks, while Medical and Legal Separations share one. It's because we have a higher suicide rate, a lot of mental breakdowns, more behavior issues, and so on, and therefore need to be supervised by drill instructors (each separations barracks has a drill instructor monitoring things at all times) who understand this and act appropriately. We also have optional group therapy classes every weekday, and therapists and chaplains were available. We also have books and TVs (no satellite or cable, but plenty of movies) and a lounge with a gym to keep us occupied (Medical/Legal have this stuff, too). Also, the drill instructors usually treat us like civilians unless we piss them off.
Up until about two years ago it took three months to get separated instead of the two to three weeks it now takes, books, TVs, lounge time, and such were nonexistent, Mental Separations were in the same barracks as everyone else, and there was no therapy available. The suicide and mental breakdown rate and behavior issues caused by this were so unbelievable that sweeping changes had to be made.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:11 pm
meh, for me I actually just chose to get out.
to get honorable takes a lot of persistence and research, learning the loopholes and talking to LOTS of people..liaison, chaplain,,plt sgts,first sgt, company commander, various civilians,and many other people.
oh, and youre walking all the way across post for appointments and doing your medical and other s**t that takes forever to wait on. a process that makes most people just give up.
didnt have much of a choice really, I was stuck in my 15T AIT, not absorbing the material and getting nowhere, and it had been over a year since i had been out of basic before going to AIT. (yes thats a year of doing essentially nothing)
was too fed up to even wanna switch my MOS.
funny thing really, because when others saw that I was getting out they bombarded me with questions and started their own little plans to try and get out... and I was starting to get some attention drawn to me because I started they didnt think they could get an honorable discharge before they saw me get mine.
just know that in tradoc, a dishonorable discharge is pretty much impossible unless you killed someone or did something truly crazy.
most of them are general under honorable, I made sure I had honorable
by the time I got out I had 2 1/2 years in.... and never left ******** TRADOC.
just a word of advice, NEVER let your friends sign up under split op training
when im ready im gonna do this s**t the right way and go infantry.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:31 pm
I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:55 am
AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:33 am
Private Sanders AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have. Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:10 am
Fresnel Private Sanders AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have. Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:25 am
AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel Private Sanders AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have. Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues. Because it's always the quiet ones?
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:31 am
Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel Private Sanders AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have. Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues. Because it's always the quiet ones? Have you ever met me? I could talk the ears off a cornstalk.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:43 am
AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel Private Sanders AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. Really? Aspergers is what the Navy says I have. Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues. Because it's always the quiet ones? Have you ever met me? I could talk the ears off a cornstalk. So can I, but only with people I know. How about with people you're just meeting?
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:51 pm
AINGELPROJECT667 I have Aspergers, which will make it really difficult to get a position in the Air Force, which I'm going to join up into after college. Thankfully, the recruiters I've talked to said that I can be put through a psyche evaluation test, and if I pass, I'll be allowed to fly. I've already gone to therapy, and I cancelled my perscription last year, so college is going to be the time for me to shape up my social life. theyll never know if you have it if you dont ever mention it. idk, my old counselor told me I might have a mild case of aspergers too. but I've become more and more outgoing as the years went by. im only slightly socially awkward in certain situations, mostly with old friends and exes who I havent seen in years. i dunno why. but yeah, just make no mention of it and youll be fine.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:36 pm
Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues. Because it's always the quiet ones? Have you ever met me? I could talk the ears off a cornstalk. So can I, but only with people I know. How about with people you're just meeting? I'm a little shy at first, but I'll open up once I get to know someone. Isn't everyone like that?
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:12 pm
AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel AINGELPROJECT667 Fresnel Half the ******** internet has Asperger's. It's the new ADD. Ten years ago, people like us would have been considered "socially awkward", not "slightly autistic". At least you can prove if someone has ADD by their reaction to stimulants, AFAIK asperger's has no symptoms except social awkwardness. My cure is getting the ******** over it. It's not working so well, but it looks like it is, and that's good enough for me. What I don;t get is why people make such a big deal out of it. Aspergers is purely a social disease, and has nothing to do with diminished mental capicity. I can walk and talk as easily as the next guy, the only difference being that I can't pick up on certain social cues. Because it's always the quiet ones? Have you ever met me? I could talk the ears off a cornstalk. So can I, but only with people I know. How about with people you're just meeting? I'm a little shy at first, but I'll open up once I get to know someone. Isn't everyone like that? Nope. Either you're outgoing, or you have asperger's. GGE: Assburgers.
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