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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:06 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:59 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:19 am
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:01 pm
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:46 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:04 pm
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TenSin This conversation changed topics pretty quickly... From "Just because you don't belive in God or Jesus doesn't mean you worship in Satan, or the devil. " To "There is no Satan." Personal opinions. They're bound to show up in any discussion. If they didn't it'd be pretty bland.
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:56 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:11 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:58 pm
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@Pickle - Well, it's about commercialism now, maybe, but that is not how it started. You will notice in medieval woodcuts that Satan is often depicted as having a horns and a tail. So it's not a modern commercial thing. I said he was not shown as having these things before Christianity entered Europe because, as you've likely heard "the Gods of the old religion became the devils of the new".
Gods like Pan, Cernnonous, and Greek spirits of the woods were "borrowed" and used as imagery for Satan over the course of many years. I don't think he has horns and a tail, or that he even exists except in the minds of those who believe that he does. It is for some people necessary to have some kind of figure embodying evil, but I've never had that need. I don't see things as being good or evil. There is a spectrum of colors in the world and some things that are good to some might be bad to another.
I've never understood the logic of Satan and hell and so forth. xD If the Christian God is all-powerful, than couldn't he have stopped Satan from falling in the first place [and therefore causing humans to fall as well]? And in the Bible it says that Satan takes his orders from God still, and that God is stronger than he is. So why is God allowing Satan and Hell to exist, when God is also supposed to be All-Forgiving and Merciful? I might add that in Christian mythology, that when you go to Hell, you're there forever. So, apparently, if you do bad things in this one short small human life, you get sent to an eternity of torture and horrific agony? Isn't that a little unbalanced? xD And isn't that a little evil and "Satanic" of God to allow this to happen?
Anyway I don't mean to offend. This is just my fingers typing out my thoughts as they come. Don't let yourself get offended. <3333
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:17 pm
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PickleMePurple shirokitsune Satan was actually a figure that was invented quite a bit later in Christian theology than most Christians even know. sweatdrop His myths were borrowed slowly over the years, from many different mythic cycles in the Middle East. He didn't even have a horns or tail until Christianity came to Europe. x.x; I don't know about other Christians, but I think the horn and tails version is mostly commercial (i.e. for entertainment purposes). I don't think he has horns and tail any more than I think Santa Clause is real. As to the first post, you are correct. It is ignorant of people to think that just because you're not Christian you worship the devil. People of the Wiccan persuasion get this the most, because people consider it witchcraft which in old times was very heavily associated with the devil, but Wiccans don't believe there is a Satan...how can they worship him?
In a book I read it said that the devil's demons took possession of a human telling these people that they could have power if they followed satan if they agreed they got powers if they didn't they would stay in being possessed by the demon until they either went mad or they died.
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