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pi3isg0od

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:21 pm


Alright, as I’ve gotten older, my teachers have really stressed plagiarism. So of course I check everything I write, or say, or do, because I do NOT want to get sued.

Recently, a friend of mine drew a picture (let’s just say she drew a very popular anime character) and signed her name on it. It was a very good drawing, but it was almost too perfect. Others decided to pay her for a copy. So, I tell her she plagiarised that image and she is not allowed to make money off of it. She tells me "I drew it, so it's not plagiarism."


So gaians. Is this plagiarism?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:24 pm


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Plagiarism only applies to writing, dumbass.

Definition aside:
She created an original work of art. Now, if she had put her own name on an existing artwork, it would be a problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:29 pm


No need to get rude.

Plagiarism applies to anything such as ideas, images, stories, anything that you came up with in your head. It wasn't original. It wasn't her idea. She copied it directly. It gets even more complicated since she's selling it and making money off of it.

Oh yes, thanks for telling me about an obvious dictionary site. Please leave that negativity elsewhere.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:29 pm


Copywrite is U-turned so long as there is a minute detail that differs.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:40 pm


Yay pie!


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Plagiarism is defined as taking the ideas, writings, or inventions of another and representing them as your own.


You used to have to pay to protect your ideas, or songs or other stuff. But now, since you can just highlight someone's paper online and print it out as your own, anything you come up with in your head is copywrited(as long as you have proof that you came up with it).
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:51 pm


Firstly, in a way it unfortunatly it would not be plaguriasm... unless she specifically stated it was that anime character and had written proof on the artwork...

Secondly, in a way though a lot of people would have a negative look on it, a true artist or artiste should not have to rely on other peoples artwork for their own creations... of course unless she is just practicing her art skills...

It is hard to say... but if lets say she drew InuYasha for an art assignment, unless she literally signs her name with the anime characters name she might be in trouble but it's very difficult to say...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:41 pm


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www.dictionary.com
Plagiarism only applies to writing, dumbass.

Definition aside:
She created an original work of art. Now, if she had put her own name on an existing artwork, it would be a problem.


I thought this was to be a helpful site? No need for name calling.

pi3isgood, I'm on a poetry site not related to Gaia, and have seen people take published songs, change a few lines and claim it as their own. Needless to say, the so called "original poem" was deleted and the person reminded the deed twas illegal. I have seen people take artwork and print it on the computer and place their name on it. It seems just as illegal to me as stealing someone's words.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:08 pm


pi3isg0od
No need to get rude.

Plagiarism applies to anything such as ideas, images, stories, anything that you came up with in your head. It wasn't original. It wasn't her idea. She copied it directly. It gets even more complicated since she's selling it and making money off of it.

Oh yes, thanks for telling me about an obvious dictionary site. Please leave that negativity elsewhere.

www.dictionary.com
Plagiarism applies only to literature.

If you draw a portrait of someone and sell it, can they sue you for "plagiarising" their body?
If you draw a tree and sell it, can it sue you for plagiarism?
The character is obviously copyrighted. If she claimed to have come up with the character, then she can be sued for "copyright infringement."
Since she did not, she can most certainly do with it what she wants.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:11 pm


hippiepoet1964
I thought this was to be a helpful site? No need for name calling.

pi3isgood, I'm on a poetry site not related to Gaia, and have seen people take published songs, change a few lines and claim it as their own. Needless to say, the so called "original poem" was deleted and the person reminded the deed twas illegal. I have seen people take artwork and print it on the computer and place their name on it. It seems just as illegal to me as stealing someone's words.
She drew it herself. It's completely legal. If she had printed the original work, put her name on it, and sold it, then she would be breaking the law.

Anyone can copy/paste a bunch of words and call it their own. Not everyone can draw their favorite anime character.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:15 pm


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Copywrite is U-turned so long as there is a minute detail that differs.
Also; if you simply add a couple of quotation marks and a citation, it's completely legal. What you're doing there is acknowledging the source instead of calling it your own.

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Amphion

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:16 pm


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Plagiarism applies only to literature.

I beg to differ. Plagiarism can most certainly apply to music. I can't claim to have written Beethoven's 5th Symphony, and if it were still under copyright, and I did do so, I could be sued. It also applies to scientific discoveries and inventions:
The Contsitution of the United States of America: Article I, section 8
Congress shall have power...To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries...

So why not art?


Intuicide
If you draw a portrait of someone and sell it, can they sue you for "plagiarising" their body?

No. First, you are creating an original work of art; the person sitting for the painting is not actually painting it. Second, if they're sitting long enough for you to paint/draw them, then you probably have their permission anyway, rendering the whole issue moot.

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If you draw a tree and sell it, can it sue you for plagiarism?

No. As no trees have yet been observed speaking any language known to man, it would be quite difficult for them to give evidence in court. The first argument from above also applies.

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The character is obviously copyrighted. If she claimed to have come up with the character, then she can be sued for "copyright infringement."
Since she did not, she can most certainly do with it what she wants.

But is the way the character drawn not also subject to copyright? If I copy someone else's drawings exactly, and just give the characters different names, should I be able to pass it off as my own work?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:00 am


Was gone for a few days, but Amphion literally took the words out of my mouth. Thank you hippiepoet.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:12 pm


Yes, that is considered plagiarism because she drew an idea that was NOT originally hers, and she said it was. It is fan art, yes. But she has no right to call it her own creation without giving credit to whoever is the one who came up with the idea in the first place.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:44 pm


dictionary.com
pla·gia·rism /ˈpleɪdʒəˌrɪzəm, -dʒiəˌrɪz-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
2. something used and represented in this manner.
Language, other than speech, implies literature, does it not? As far as I know, language does not apply in a significant way to scientific discoveries or visual art.

If she claimed to have come up with the character herself, yes; it's "plagiarism."

Had she acknowledged the character's designer, then, no; it would just be fanart. No harm done.

When you're dealing with non-literature, you're more infringing copyright, trademark, whatever.

And as far as drawing a person or a tree... that was not to be taken literally. It was more rhetoric.

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Amphion

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:57 pm


Intuicide, would it kill you to check another source?

Wiktionary
plagiarism

1. the act of plagiarizing, or something plagiarized
2. the copying of someone's ideas, text or other creative work and claiming it as one's own

Artwork would be creative work, no?
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