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Crenn

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:07 am


NG, I believe your sadness came from the view of the blood and the realisation that it may have not survived. Things affect us in different ways, when anything dies (except for maybe spiders.... and snakes... sorry..... I have a fear of these both) I have a certian sadness.... but when I see a fox dead.... the feeling is more intense, almost like I lost someone I knew...

NG, I'm also sorry to say, but everything has a breaking point. I've reach my own breaking point several times, I've lost friends, people I used to be able to talk to, but one thing is always certian, life moves forward. We can reflect on these things, wonder why it happened the way it did, but it always stressful. Stress and depression wouldn't have helped the situation, and crying is good for you.... this sounds weird, but I enjoy it when I cry, it lets me know I'm still human. And NG, compassion to care for things tiny and things that aren't going to make it shows you're human. And rest is always good, I'd also recommend listening to some music as well, whatever style it may be.

*looks up the word sap*

I don't believe you're a sap, NG. I believe you're human.

FoxSage, accepting death happening can happen, loosing emotions can happen. I have trouble with my emotions as well, but being with ones I love helps me to show my emotions. Other people can only be free with their emotions if they want it to be that way. You're no emotion miser, you just want to feel. You are a part of humanity.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:33 am


I think it's a sign of character to put such attatchment into living things like that, NG. I'm not good at this sort of thing, but I think it's good to be like that. It shows you're cabable of truly caring for something, caring for something with all you've got, and I admire that totally.

Fogsage, I don't think necessarily a bad thing to be like you say you are, but I think maybe you could be at risk from just shutting yourself off from the rest of the world emotionally. If you don't allow people to be close to you or allow yourself to have attatchments, I think you risk coming off as a jerk to other people, and I know from my experiences with other people that that will get you no where in life.

I may have completely missed the mark on that one, though xp

All I'm saying is, that in my opinion, it's a good thing to have emotional attatchments to people or other living things because it shows just how willing you are to care for something, and how far you're willing to go for that care to succeed

Af Mas


Shaviv

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:05 am


FogSage
Shaviv
Yote, there's nothing wrong with feeling for another living creature, when it's happy or when it's in pain. It's a mark of humanity. You're one of us.


For some reason, I must not be part of humanity. I accept that death happens. I just don't get emotional. It's the sad truth. I've only cried.....when I was younger. I don't have emotions other than anger and sadness and bitterness. How is it that other people can be so free with their emotions and I cannot? Am I some kind of emotion miser? o.o

Emotion doesn't have to be outward. I tend not to cry either when things die, though it doesn't make me any less sad. It's a lot easier in cases where death was the best of all possible worlds. I'm not a vet, but I can see when my dog, or one of my birds, is dying in pain and they will sometimes let you know that what they want is just to leave already.

Of course, I consider myself a bit of a sap too. lol
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:23 am


Thanks for the comments and advice everyone, even if not all of it helps at least I'm happy to get this out ~

Art school is something I've basically avoided because the only two times I took art classes, I was WAY ahead of the work we had to do, which became boring pretty fast sitting around class doing nothing, or I was dreadfully behind, such as whenever I have to work with real media and my skills retract to the equivalent of a 4 year old's. It doesn't take a professional to see that my domain is CG art, sadly that's not what most art courses I've seen around here entail.

That, and I can't stand having a teacher. Or homework. I hated school for that, and about halfway through highschool I stopped doing any work alltogether. No class work, no homework, zippo. Just the projects I would be graded for, and I'd ace them with 90% or more. Being I passed everything with a good 20% more than any other student, the teachers would just let me be and allow me to draw in class and listen to music in the back without being bothered.

As for trying to do other stuff... well I've been trying. It's advice I've taken since last year, to try and focus on other things in life and let art come back to me. Work, talking long walks, videogames, music, cooking, even just laying on the couch listening to music or doing jack squat. Yet it's not... I spend so much time just sitting here at my desk, with my art posted around on the walls and all of my old stuff in my filing cabinet. It's an everyday pain, seeing it slip away like this, and lately with everything else I have on mind, it's only getting worse.

And that's how my facade slipped too. I'm pretty sure everyone who's ever messaged me on MSN got the usual "Goes well" when they ask me how it goes. I ALWAYS say that, or almost. I don't usually share my problems because I don't want to bother people with them, and instead just hide behind my wall of "happy" and try to sort things out on my own, but lately it just doesn't work out anymore. Problems only seem to be growing, and there's nothing being done about them.

I'm still jobless, having gotten no callbacks after losing that other job at the videostore with that boss that just couldn't make up her mind on what she wanted done, and ever since my parents have been getting on my case about being jobless. And it's not like I don't see that they only care about it so that they can "borrow" money from me again, as if they hadn't done it enough already. Everytime they're complaining about needing more money I tell them to get dad to stop rolling up and smoking 400$ per month with his cigarettes and beer, and I just get bitched at to get a job, which I've been trying to for 3 months now. But that's not easy in a town where there's about 3 times as many teens as there are jobs to be filled. -_-;

Then the psych I went to see for my transition didn't help either, going in circles about things I already know about myself as if I were reading my own personal psychological resume which I've already done so often, and I eventually just ended the counseling sessions with her because of that... that was almost 2000$ done the drain for absolutely nothing. She didn't even cover the subject of transition, and even avoided it every time I brought it up. This is the 3rd time I turn to psychs for help on the matter, and it's the 3rd time they get my money and I get nothing back, so I'm through with the quacks. Going on 18, I'll self-medicate for a month and call up the endos; they'll be forced to see me anyways instead of going on about needing psych approvals again; they can stuff their damn psychs up their asses, freakin' gawdawful medical system.

2 weeks now that I've been thinking about all this almost non-stop, and it's really tearing me down. This morning I woke up in the middle of the night crying holding the couch cushion close to me like I was hugging someone, and I just eyed the world map on the wall and hummed a soft tune until I fell asleep again. All the while, the only thoughts I had were to grab whatever I have left in my bank account and go to Ome, as I still have the box with his adress that he sent me the DS in. But that would never work out, and I'd probably get lost on the way; and even if I did get all the way to him, I'd then be piss-poor, look like s**t, and his parents would never accept us, let alone me after Ome told me what he overheard them talking about when it comes to transgendered folk.

So I turn to videogames as a way to escape my reality, to relax, to release myself. Playing SecondLife and FFXI lets me temporarily be the girl I wish I could be, while I have my sister around being almost a painful reminder of what I never was, as she really does seem to harbor the same personality I do, minus the gender issues. But now my parents are ven starting to pull the plug on my stuff in an attempt to use the games to bribe me into doing more chores around the house, and yesterday even went as far as cutting off the internet while I was playing a game with Ome, using even him as bait to get me to do what they want.

I just can't stay in this town any longer; yet I can't leave either because I can't afford it, and I can't even get a job to afford it. Life in general has just become one neverending Hell here, and I can't take it anymore. I've bottled up what I could, but everyone has a limit, and I broke mine months ago. My manners of release fall one by one, and the pressure only gets bigger. All I have left for me here are my cats, and I'm lucky my parents haven't done anything about them either, what with how much my mom bitches about them... ~  

Sonya Khatsworth


UglyCoyoteNG

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:48 am


I found the bunny this morning. It wasn't hard to find. The insensative owners of the cat let him out the second I left, and Miky whent off to find it, and he did. He's not very good at the whole killing thing, as my cats are. He'd torn it apart, and judging by the way the bits are scattered, and the blood, it was still moving.

Mind you, I have pet rats. I don't cry when I feed rats to my snakes. Or mice. Crickets? Pfft. I feed rats, baby chicks on occation, and when they're bloody and helpless, at my own hands, because i will not feed my snakes a life chick ( it could hurt them if it struggles) I have to kill it. Bunnies, I've fed to snakes befor.Its never bothered me killing them befor, but that one bunny made me cry, I don't know why.

What if its unusual for me to feel compassion. Dose that make me not one of 'you,' or particaly drifting between 'you' and something else?

Crenn, I've killed rats and mice, resembling my own pets, taken needles and pulled theu're organs out threw they're mouth or a hole in they're stomache to get my snake to eat. I doubt the blood has had anything to do with it. Nor the fact it wasn't going to survive. I knew it wasn't. I knew the mice I was feeding beeper wheren't, either, and I RAISED them. I have no ties to rabbits. Infact, I don't even like rabbits all that much. I used to own one, and he hated me.

Regarding breaking point. I hate crying. I'm almost always on the verge of, or am, dehydrated, and that dosen't help. I get sick, and end up depressed soon after. Why dose everyone seem to press the matter that i'm human? I got it already.

Yes crenn. I am. Over some small,insignificant to me, life, I cried. When I found it this morning? Nothing. Just an "oh.Okay." and that was all.

I think its a sign of weakness, Af. Why dose everyone keep pressing the matter that I'm CAPABLE of caring? I know I am!
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:19 pm


I think it's only weakness when it's too easy to care, when you're too willing to attatch to something.

But I think I mentioned in my previous post I suck at this kind of thing, I just don't want you to feel bad for having felt like you did. Weakness or not, it doesn't really matter.

Af Mas


Krissim Klaw

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:39 pm


I think part of it NG is this is different than feeding your snakes. To own snakes or any animal that eats other living animals that you must directly kill, you have to be tough. Sure, sometimes it might cause a slight pause, but your doing it for your babies. You are killing for their well being and so they can survive.

For instance, I am the first person that will jump up when an insect gets lost inside a building and try and carry it to safty before some t**t squashes it. However, I also go outside each day hunting down insects with the sole purpose of feeding them to my mantises. I've pulled legs off of grasshoppers, wings off of butterflies, and squashed dragon fly heads so they can't bite, all at one time or another when feeding my mantises. Sure normally, I don't have to do anything but just pop in the insect and let my babies do their job, but if something needs to be done to insure safety, I do it; just like you do for your snakes.

This bunny however didn't need to die. The cats didn't need to play with it. They have plenty of food, this was just for sport. To make matters worse there you were the one who considers yourself the non carer and your surronded by a bunch of jerks who care even less then you. To top it off, in its weak and dieing state, the bunny latched on to you for help and safty. You were warm and plucked it out of danger and it clung to you like a lost child. And you knew this as you tried to push it off of you and back into the grass. You knew it was going to die alone and scared for no other reason than life sucks and isn't fair. All it wanted was to be warm and have the pain and fear stop.

But you pushed it away knowing it was going to die and couldn't help but feel something. It is strange how sometimes one death will effect you so much more than a hundred others. Even if you have watched many other little creatures die like that, you can't discount the individuality of the creature before you. Some animals reach out further than others. Not only that, but it was such an unexpected thing. You weren't expecting to deal with death. It was just one of those moments.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:43 pm


Well said, Kriss, well said *bows*

Af Mas


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:16 pm


UglyCoyoteNG
I hate crying. I'm almost always on the verge of, or am, dehydrated, and that dosen't help. I get sick, and end up depressed soon after. Why dose everyone seem to press the matter that i'm human? I got it already.



Drink more water. Cry more often. Crying is something everyone needs to do, it's a way of releasing emotion that is pent up, and if you don't do it every once in awhile it all just builds up, until you cry until it hurts. (I would know)
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:40 pm


Kriss = Always has the answers. X3 Yeah, I supose your right. I just wasn't exepcting to care -_-; ...i've had small animals cling to me for saftey to get away from my cats (such as a small rodent phantom brought home, with its spine crushed so it was dragging itself all over) and i still killed it to put it out of its misery because phantom wasn't going to. I dunno. It just dosen't seem right? .:.shrug.:. ah well..I'm over it now I guess...

UglyCoyoteNG


Krissim Klaw

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:43 pm


Eek, my largest baby mantis is shedding for his second time. I completely did not expect it to be this soon. I even had him out only a few minutes ago and he was running around and everything. Then the next thing I know I'm taking the cage of the window ledge and there he is mid shed *prays to the mantis gods to be forgiven for disturbing a mantis during the shedding process*

This is the second mantis that shed today. @.@ Should have guessed it with the rain hanging in the air like it is.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:47 pm


surprised Weee~ mantises. They shed real fast?

UglyCoyoteNG


Rainey_angel81

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:49 pm


Krissim Klaw
Eek, my largest baby mantis is shedding for his second time. I completely did not expect it to be this soon. I even had him out only a few minutes ago and he was running around and everything. Then the next thing I know I'm taking the cage of the window ledge and there he is mid shed *prays to the mantis gods to be forgiven for disturbing a mantis during the shedding process*

This is the second mantis that shed today. @.@ Should have guessed it with the rain hanging in the air like it is.

ee...I think that would be neat to watch.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:51 pm


Krissim Klaw
Eek, my largest baby mantis is shedding for his second time. I completely did not expect it to be this soon. I even had him out only a few minutes ago and he was running around and everything. Then the next thing I know I'm taking the cage of the window ledge and there he is mid shed *prays to the mantis gods to be forgiven for disturbing a mantis during the shedding process*

This is the second mantis that shed today. @.@ Should have guessed it with the rain hanging in the air like it is.


O_O that's so awsome!

Alexi-Ketzi

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