NC5: Introducing an Old Man to an Old Friend

[uryu ishida]

OberFeldwebel

uryu ishida

OberFeldwebel

uryu ishida

OberFeldwebel

Ah, I usually keep the chamber clear and a full mag.
The one that I have in is an 8 rounder and the other is 7 so it's about right if I had one in the tube.

All the guns are in COndition 1.
My SxS is of course, because it doesn't have a mag, just two barrels!
The Pt1911, the CZ-52, the PA-63 (mom's, but it IS in condition 1), the Single Six (.22WMR cylinder)

I keep one handgun loaded at a time, and unload the other to let the springs rest I guess.

Unless they are cheap, the springs should be fine sitting in one position all the time. Compressed or uncompressed. What actually wears them out is the cycling between. UNLESS they are particularly cheap springs, or they are pushed in either direction beyond limits, causing the spring to stretch or take a set (get squished)


I found a '00 Cherokee, dark green, for $3k (with the other odd numbers, just a rough number by the dealer). It's actually beeing sold by a friend of the dealer, the dealer just let him put it out with the rest of the cars so it could be seen.
He also has two Wranglers for $6950, one a normal Manual transmision, the other the Sahara edition with auto, and 4x4 manual.

There are multiple sides to the 'do I keep my mags loaded or not' thing.
Hardly anyone seems to agree.

I keep mine loaded. All four of them (2 for CZ-52, 2 for 1911), though I need more. The local shop is ordering me more, and I can get them when they come in.  

[uryu ishida]

I just noticed something.
My local gunshop must be very, very odd.

I keep hearing people complain about the prices of EBRs, and of the price of .223, or finding ammo.
Well, my local shop is different.

He has a double-star AR on the wall.
It costs $600 (plus the odd numbers, tax, TICS).
He can get them all day long, at that price.
He even has a Custom Predator build for $1600, which is what those Double-Star ARs are going for on Gunbroker. SOme of them, anyway.

He has NEVER run out of .223/5.56. And they are fair prices. He has plenty. Practically the ONLY caliber he has trouble getting is .45ACP now, other than the couple boxes of Winchester he has and the two boxes of Remington "High Quality +P" JHPs, which were $50 a box (I'll go for the normal, non +P Remington JHPs on ATG, for <$25, thank you)
Oh, he even has two boxes of the elusive .380 ACP, though I don't expect those to last long.
Oh, and 20 gauge. He never stocks it. He can get it any time he wants, he just doesn't. Arg. I'm the only one who goes there that uses it.

TONS of 9mm, range loads.
.45 Long Colt, for the Henry and Taurus shooters.

He stocks a pretty good number of handguns for the store size, all fairly priced.
He stocks a damn good amount of long guns for his store size, so many he can't fit them all (a fair number just sit in the safe, like the 20 gauge Remington 870s he has, synthetic stock 7-rounders, with 18.5" barrels)
Though I say he should use the rack he has instead of just the pegboard, even if the pegboard shows them off better.





Yes, this is my rant and random s**t and bragging thread.  

[uryu ishida]

Well, I depart tomorrow at 7:30AM.
To the monthly shoot.
To pick up MY M1 GARAND.
And ammo for it.
And a lantern.
We will also have shootey fun.  

[Fresnel]

I really need to stop reading this thread.  

[uryu ishida]

Fresnel

I really need to stop reading this thread.

Not only shootey goodness.
EXPLODEY shootey goodness.
For we are shooting cans of tomato paste or tomato sauce.
As zombie stand-ins.

And, another kick in the nuts.
WE'RE HAVING SLOPPY JOES.  

[Fresnel]

uryu ishida

Fresnel

I really need to stop reading this thread.

Not only shootey goodness.
EXPLODEY shootey goodness.
For we are shooting cans of tomato paste or tomato sauce.
As zombie stand-ins.

Okay, ******** this s**t. Next time I go out I'm bringing the Texas Star and the explosive targets.

As a note, I plan on failing miserably at both. Those damn targets are so old they dud out half the time.

Quote:

And, another kick in the nuts.
WE'RE HAVING SLOPPY JOES.

HAHA, YOU FAIL FOR ONCE. I don't really like sloppy joes.  

[uryu ishida]

Fresnel

uryu ishida

Fresnel

I really need to stop reading this thread.

Not only shootey goodness.
EXPLODEY shootey goodness.
For we are shooting cans of tomato paste or tomato sauce.
As zombie stand-ins.

Okay, ******** this s**t. Next time I go out I'm bringing the Texas Star and the explosive targets.

As a note, I plan on failing miserably at both. Those damn targets are so old they dud out half the time.

Quote:

And, another kick in the nuts.
WE'RE HAVING SLOPPY JOES.

HAHA, YOU FAIL FOR ONCE. I don't really like sloppy joes.

THen what about the Doritos, our official unofficial snack chip?  

[Fresnel]

uryu ishida

Fresnel

uryu ishida

Fresnel

I really need to stop reading this thread.

Not only shootey goodness.
EXPLODEY shootey goodness.
For we are shooting cans of tomato paste or tomato sauce.
As zombie stand-ins.

Okay, ******** this s**t. Next time I go out I'm bringing the Texas Star and the explosive targets.

As a note, I plan on failing miserably at both. Those damn targets are so old they dud out half the time.

Quote:

And, another kick in the nuts.
WE'RE HAVING SLOPPY JOES.

HAHA, YOU FAIL FOR ONCE. I don't really like sloppy joes.

THen what about the Doritos, our official unofficial snack chip?

Ehhhh... not so much.  

[OberFeldwebel]

You suck.


Sloppy joes, not so much.
Cool Ranch doritos?
Then you suck even more.  

[uryu ishida]

Okay, I suck less, but only because of CMP being a douche about how much one can purchase per year thanks to a GIANT rush in purchasing from them.
I was not the only one buying a Garand from him, BUT I WAS the only one paying it off in payments. He was one Garand short, and I bit the bullet.
BUT, I left with no disappointment.
I left with an M1 Carbine, three magazines, 100 rounds of ammo, and basic marksmanship training. And some training as to little tricks ot take it apart and clean it. It is surprisingly simple, compared to watching everyone taking apart garands (including those not being sold--all of us got put to work taking apart, cleaning, and greasing guns. I got put to work on four carbines, and the other four got put to work on four garands. I actually finished all four faster)

It's barrel is a 1, and right now I'm looking for the armory who made it.


EDIT: It's an RIA, with the "alternate" rear sight. According to the manual, anyway, it's the "alternate" rear sight.
EDIT: 462,000 range, if anyone can help me use that to find out it's age.
Also, it has the bayonet lug. Does anyone know where I can get a fair priced Carbine bayonet?  

[uryu ishida]

Only picture that's turned out OK because of my shitty camera.

Also has my "new" (*rebuilt) lantern.  

[Fresnel]

It looks to me like eBay is the way to go. It's the M4 bayonet.  

[OberFeldwebel]

RIA?

... I'm not seeing that on the list.

Look closely underneath the rear sight just above the serial number, see if you can read the manufacturer's name there.

Quote:

Inland Division of General Motors
1 - 5 (Tool Room Models) (Nov. 1941)
6 - 999,999 (May 1942 - Sept. 1943)
2,912,520 - 3,212,519 (Sept. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
4,879,526 - 5,549,820 (Jan. 1944 - Aug. 1944)
6,219,689 - 6,449,867 (Aug. 1944 - Nov. 1944)
6,629,884 - 6,664,883 (Nov. 1944 - Jan. 1945)
6,664,884 - 7,234,883 (Jan. 1945 - Aug. 1945)
7,369,661 - 8,069,660 (Jan. 1945 - Aug. 1945)

Winchester Repeating Arms Co.
6 - 10 (Tool Room Models) (Dec. 1941)
1,000,000 - 1,349,999 (Sept. 1942 - Feb. 1944)
4,075,000 - 4,075,009 (Feb. 1944)
5,549,822 - 5,834,618 (Feb. 1944 - Nov. 1944)
6,449,868 - 6,629,883 (Nov. 1944 - Jan. 1945)
7,234,884 - 7,369,669 (Jan. 1945 - Sept. 1945)

Underwood Elliott-Fisher
1,350,000 - 1,449,999 (Nov. 1942 - July 1943)
2,352,520 - 2,912,519 (July 1943 - Feb. 1944)
4,010,000 - 4,074,999 (Feb. 1944 - March 1944)
6,099,689 - 6,199,688 (March 1944 - May 1944)

Quality Hardware & Machine Co.
1,550,000 - 1,562,519 (Feb. 1943 - May 1943)
1,562,520 - 1,662,519 (June 1943)
1,850,040 - 1,907,519 (July 1943 - Aug. 1943)
4,432,100 - 4,532,099 (Sept. 1943)
4,632,100 - 4,879,525 (Sept. 1943 - May 1944)

Rock-Ola Music Co.
1,662,520 - 1,762,519 (Nov. 1942 - Nov. 1943)
4,532,100 - 4,632,099 (Nov. 1943 - March 1944)
6,071,189 - 6,099,688 (March 1944 - April 1944)
6,199,689 - 6,219,688 (April 1944)

Irwin Pedersen
1,762,520 - 1,875,039
3,212,520 - 3,250,019

Note: The author states that no completed IP carbines were accepted by the government. He goes on to say that 3,542 completed carbines were at the factory when taken over by Saginaw, Grand Rapids on Jan. 11, 1944 (observed serial numbers for these carbines are below 1,750,000). All other carbines, approximately 50,000 in number, were produced by Saginaw with IP receivers.

Saginaw Gear (Grand Rapids)
1,762,520 - 1,875,039 (March 1943 - Sept. 1943)
3,212,520 - 3,250,019 (May 1943 - Jan. 11, 1944)

Saginaw Gear (Saginaw)
3,250,020 - 3,651,519 (May 1943 - Feb. 1944)
5,834,619 - 6,071,188 (Feb. 1944 - May 1944)

National Postal Meter
1,450,000 - 1,549,999 (Jan. 1943 - Sept. 1943)
1,937,520 - 1,982,519 (Oct. 1943 - Nov. 1943)
4,075,010 - 4,079,999 (Nov. 1943 - Dec. 1943)
4,080,000 - 4,432,099 (Dec. 1943 - May 1944)

Note: The author states that 239 field replacement receivers marked "COMMERCIAL CONTROLS" were produced in July, 1944.

Standard Products
1,982,520 - 2,100,000 (March 1943 - Sept. 1943)
2,100,000 - 2,220,000 (Sept. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
2,220,000 - 2,352,519 (Jan. 1944 - May 1944)

International Business Machine Corp.
3,651,520 - 3,663,000 (Oct. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
3,663,000 - 3,900,000 (Jan. 1944 - March 1944)
3,900,000 - 4,000,999 (March 1944 - May 1944)

Yeah, the M4 Bayonet works.
I could kick myself in the a** for selling it.
Had a Utica with leather handle.  

[uryu ishida]

OberFeldwebel

RIA?

... I'm not seeing that on the list.

Look closely underneath the rear sight just above the serial number, see if you can read the manufacturer's name there.

Quote:

Inland Division of General Motors
1 - 5 (Tool Room Models) (Nov. 1941)
6 - 999,999 (May 1942 - Sept. 1943)
2,912,520 - 3,212,519 (Sept. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
4,879,526 - 5,549,820 (Jan. 1944 - Aug. 1944)
6,219,689 - 6,449,867 (Aug. 1944 - Nov. 1944)
6,629,884 - 6,664,883 (Nov. 1944 - Jan. 1945)
6,664,884 - 7,234,883 (Jan. 1945 - Aug. 1945)
7,369,661 - 8,069,660 (Jan. 1945 - Aug. 1945)

Winchester Repeating Arms Co.
6 - 10 (Tool Room Models) (Dec. 1941)
1,000,000 - 1,349,999 (Sept. 1942 - Feb. 1944)
4,075,000 - 4,075,009 (Feb. 1944)
5,549,822 - 5,834,618 (Feb. 1944 - Nov. 1944)
6,449,868 - 6,629,883 (Nov. 1944 - Jan. 1945)
7,234,884 - 7,369,669 (Jan. 1945 - Sept. 1945)

Underwood Elliott-Fisher
1,350,000 - 1,449,999 (Nov. 1942 - July 1943)
2,352,520 - 2,912,519 (July 1943 - Feb. 1944)
4,010,000 - 4,074,999 (Feb. 1944 - March 1944)
6,099,689 - 6,199,688 (March 1944 - May 1944)

Quality Hardware & Machine Co.
1,550,000 - 1,562,519 (Feb. 1943 - May 1943)
1,562,520 - 1,662,519 (June 1943)
1,850,040 - 1,907,519 (July 1943 - Aug. 1943)
4,432,100 - 4,532,099 (Sept. 1943)
4,632,100 - 4,879,525 (Sept. 1943 - May 1944)

Rock-Ola Music Co.
1,662,520 - 1,762,519 (Nov. 1942 - Nov. 1943)
4,532,100 - 4,632,099 (Nov. 1943 - March 1944)
6,071,189 - 6,099,688 (March 1944 - April 1944)
6,199,689 - 6,219,688 (April 1944)

Irwin Pedersen
1,762,520 - 1,875,039
3,212,520 - 3,250,019

Note: The author states that no completed IP carbines were accepted by the government. He goes on to say that 3,542 completed carbines were at the factory when taken over by Saginaw, Grand Rapids on Jan. 11, 1944 (observed serial numbers for these carbines are below 1,750,000). All other carbines, approximately 50,000 in number, were produced by Saginaw with IP receivers.

Saginaw Gear (Grand Rapids)
1,762,520 - 1,875,039 (March 1943 - Sept. 1943)
3,212,520 - 3,250,019 (May 1943 - Jan. 11, 1944)

Saginaw Gear (Saginaw)
3,250,020 - 3,651,519 (May 1943 - Feb. 1944)
5,834,619 - 6,071,188 (Feb. 1944 - May 1944)

National Postal Meter
1,450,000 - 1,549,999 (Jan. 1943 - Sept. 1943)
1,937,520 - 1,982,519 (Oct. 1943 - Nov. 1943)
4,075,010 - 4,079,999 (Nov. 1943 - Dec. 1943)
4,080,000 - 4,432,099 (Dec. 1943 - May 1944)

Note: The author states that 239 field replacement receivers marked "COMMERCIAL CONTROLS" were produced in July, 1944.

Standard Products
1,982,520 - 2,100,000 (March 1943 - Sept. 1943)
2,100,000 - 2,220,000 (Sept. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
2,220,000 - 2,352,519 (Jan. 1944 - May 1944)

International Business Machine Corp.
3,651,520 - 3,663,000 (Oct. 1943 - Jan. 1944)
3,663,000 - 3,900,000 (Jan. 1944 - March 1944)
3,900,000 - 4,000,999 (March 1944 - May 1944)

Yeah, the M4 Bayonet works.
I could kick myself in the a** for selling it.
Had a Utica with leather handle.

It's a re-arsenal, Inland Division. Rock Island Arsenal apparently re-aresenalled it, but it looks like it's from Inland Div. of GM's first run!  

[uryu ishida]

Oh.
My.
God.
Not only did I find somewhere with .30 Carbine IN STOCK, it's NOT GOUGED!
Anyone have any opinions on the Magtech all-copper rounds?