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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:35 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:53 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:56 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:38 pm
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"I believe God exists, though I don't believe certain things spoken about him by man, for good or ill. Garek is right, and I too have chosen co-existence. To state it's impossible to mix prayer with meditation, etc., is to have the Vatican's point of view that if it seems impossible or unexplainable, it cannot be. We are free to believe as we will, even when others say we cannot or should not. I don't have all the answers, no man does, but isn't the fact we have the ability to believe, plus the unexplainable factor known as our Will which has enabled many to do the impossible seem like something more than a 'miracle of science'?"
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:34 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:10 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:47 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:52 pm
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666 Demonic Lover 666 Prayer is a Tool of biblical Religion to turn you into their everlasting Slave and Battery, someone prays, something good happens, but what is the cost? Your ******** soul dip s**t. Meditation is to break free of that garbage, and to unseal your chakra's as well as to maintain them and help keep outsiders (Namely angels.) from attacking you through your soul or others from hexing you.
Fun fact, prayer is meditation.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/meditation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation#Christianity
666 Demonic Lover 666 Do I have to get myself in trouble and get my Troll suit on?
You antagonized RevvRaptor long before putting on any clothes.
666 Demonic Lover 666 It's not a "Vatican's" point of view it's the view of someone who isn't a complete retard who knows nothing of what meditation is meant for in the first place and why it is not to go with prayer.
"It's not ____'s view (Read: Opinion) that's the correct one, it's ____. "
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:09 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:13 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:40 pm
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Lydeth 666 Demonic Lover 666 Please grab a baseball bat and hit yourself as hard as you can. Seriously, wikipedia!? How stupid are you? You must be 8yrs old. Prayer is not meditation it's the exact opposite. How old are you, kid? You're so opinionated and full of hate, you surely can't claim to know how to meditate.. : P Edit: Nvm, you've got to be a troll. There's a difference between meditation and putting your faith into a non-existent being to do things for you.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:10 am
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666 Demonic Lover 666 Lydeth 666 Demonic Lover 666 Please grab a baseball bat and hit yourself as hard as you can. Seriously, wikipedia!? How stupid are you? You must be 8yrs old. Prayer is not meditation it's the exact opposite. How old are you, kid? You're so opinionated and full of hate, you surely can't claim to know how to meditate.. : P Edit: Nvm, you've got to be a troll. There's a difference between meditation and putting your faith into a non-existent being to do things for you. I think what you're missing is that the similarity between meditation and prayer is intent.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:28 am
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666 Demonic Lover 666 Seriously, wikipedia!? How stupid are you? You must be 8yrs old.
Wikipedia as an introduction to basic information and further sources is a perfectly legitimate method. Not bothering to check out the sources what the external links are is your loss.
Here's some links for you anyway. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/teresa/castle2.html http://saintsprayers.net/Meditations.htm http://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_practices_lectio http://www.wccm.org/ http://www.explorefaith.org/prayer/index.php http://www.concentric.net/~cosmas/prayer.htm
Additionally, dismissing an entire page without reason other than "it's wikipedia" isn't very good when it comes to pretty common knowledge things. But I guess if we're just going to go dismissing things all willy nilly, then I guess the fact that this article exists invalidates your opinions and perhaps even the entire religion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism It is on wikipedia after all. I'm not sure I can trust you're not making all of this satanism stuff up... wink
666 Demonic Lover 666 Prayer is not meditation it's the exact opposite.
And yet, people combine the two anyway and manage to do it quite successfully. Some even combine the two under Islam, and *gasp* totally unrelated faiths!
666 Demonic Lover 666 There's a difference between meditation and putting your faith into a non-existent being to do things for you.
Read the articles above. Not all forms of meditation under Christianity are pure prayer, as some are mix of both. Some are reflections upon scriptures and such, something monks did for centuries called, you guessed it, meditation. Others are pretty much prayer. It's a mixed bag, just as the entire wikipedia article shows.
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