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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:04 am
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:14 am
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Mildred Pierce Does anyone know what a double-join or a single-join is....in terms of lace knitting, or knitting on edges to lace pieces? I know this one smile
When you're knitting lace, and the edging is to be knit perpendicularly to the body of the piece, you start out by NOT binding off the body stitches. Instead, you cast ON (usually a provisional cast on) however many edging stitches, and those become the basis for your edging. At the end of (usually) every wrong-side row, you knit/purl the last stitch in the edging to the next live stitch in the body - this is a single join.
When going around curves or corners, you join multiple rows of the edging to the same body stitch - twice, thrice, or more, it depends on how wide the edging is mostly, but you want to give it enough of a gather around the actual corner so that the edging will lay flat. Victorian Lace Today has a really good explanation of this, as does Heirloom Knitting by Sharon Miller; you can probably get the first book at your LYS or local bookstore, and the second one through inter-library loan.
Here's a visual example of a knitted-on edging that uses single, double, and triple joins:
http://flickr.com/photos/92296807@N00/2209014638/
The eight extra stitches done before the edging are just there so that the edging can start in the right spot, they don't actually serve any other purpose.
As you can see, the join stitches are only done once - the next row (RS row), they are usually slipped, as with this pattern (which is a screenshot of part of my Galveston Shawl pattern, for those of you who worry about copyright).
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:54 am
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Zahra Ovaci Mildred Pierce Does anyone know what a double-join or a single-join is....in terms of lace knitting, or knitting on edges to lace pieces? I know this one smile When you're knitting lace, and the edging is to be knit perpendicularly to the body of the piece, you start out by NOT binding off the body stitches. Instead, you cast ON (usually a provisional cast on) however many edging stitches, and those become the basis for your edging. At the end of (usually) every wrong-side row, you knit/purl the last stitch in the edging to the next live stitch in the body - this is a single join. When going around curves or corners, you join multiple rows of the edging to the same body stitch - twice, thrice, or more, it depends on how wide the edging is mostly, but you want to give it enough of a gather around the actual corner so that the edging will lay flat. Victorian Lace Today has a really good explanation of this, as does Heirloom Knitting by Sharon Miller; you can probably get the first book at your LYS or local bookstore, and the second one through inter-library loan. Here's a visual example of a knitted-on edging that uses single, double, and triple joins: http://flickr.com/photos/92296807@N00/2209014638/ The eight extra stitches done before the edging are just there so that the edging can start in the right spot, they don't actually serve any other purpose. As you can see, the join stitches are only done once - the next row (RS row), they are usually slipped, as with this pattern (which is a screenshot of part of my Galveston Shawl pattern, for those of you who worry about copyright). Bless your heart!!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:03 am
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Zahra Ovaci Mildred Pierce Does anyone know what a double-join or a single-join is....in terms of lace knitting, or knitting on edges to lace pieces? I know this one smile When you're knitting lace, and the edging is to be knit perpendicularly to the body of the piece, you start out by NOT binding off the body stitches. Instead, you cast ON (usually a provisional cast on) however many edging stitches, and those become the basis for your edging. At the end of (usually) every wrong-side row, you knit/purl the last stitch in the edging to the next live stitch in the body - this is a single join. When going around curves or corners, you join multiple rows of the edging to the same body stitch - twice, thrice, or more, it depends on how wide the edging is mostly, but you want to give it enough of a gather around the actual corner so that the edging will lay flat. Victorian Lace Today has a really good explanation of this, as does Heirloom Knitting by Sharon Miller; you can probably get the first book at your LYS or local bookstore, and the second one through inter-library loan. Here's a visual example of a knitted-on edging that uses single, double, and triple joins: http://flickr.com/photos/92296807@N00/2209014638/ The eight extra stitches done before the edging are just there so that the edging can start in the right spot, they don't actually serve any other purpose. As you can see, the join stitches are only done once - the next row (RS row), they are usually slipped, as with this pattern (which is a screenshot of part of my Galveston Shawl pattern, for those of you who worry about copyright).
Thanks for that! I learned something, too. *grin*
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:08 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:22 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:41 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:26 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:59 am
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:17 pm
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Catcheen Bucket~Turtle So, I'm makingthis hat for my friend. I have plenty of time, so that's not the issue.
But do you have a tutorial I could use for it?
My main question was what kind of yarn to use. It looks bigger in some places then others.. Sorry, I think there's only tutorials for knitting skills rather than whole patterns. I've never seen a pattern like that either. It looks to me that it is knit like a hat, but never decreases at the top and is folded down. The yarn is a bulky (possibly super bulky) weight thick and thin yarn. It's doubtful that you'll find anything like that at a local crafting store. You'll probably need to hit up a local yarn store or even buy it online. Hope that helped a bit!
Ah, that did help! I'm a sewing type of person, and just recently got into knitting, so I didn't know there was such thing as 'thick and thin' yarn. I was like: 'WTF, why does it do that?' XDD
I found the perfect yarn online, and I actually think I have a pattern in my first knitting book that I can easily modify to work. Thank you so much!
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:43 pm
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Bucket~Turtle Catcheen Bucket~Turtle So, I'm makingthis hat for my friend. I have plenty of time, so that's not the issue.
But do you have a tutorial I could use for it?
My main question was what kind of yarn to use. It looks bigger in some places then others.. Sorry, I think there's only tutorials for knitting skills rather than whole patterns. I've never seen a pattern like that either. It looks to me that it is knit like a hat, but never decreases at the top and is folded down. The yarn is a bulky (possibly super bulky) weight thick and thin yarn. It's doubtful that you'll find anything like that at a local crafting store. You'll probably need to hit up a local yarn store or even buy it online. Hope that helped a bit! Ah, that did help! I'm a sewing type of person, and just recently got into knitting, so I didn't know there was such thing as 'thick and thin' yarn. I was like: 'WTF, why does it do that?' XDD
I found the perfect yarn online, and I actually think I have a pattern in my first knitting book that I can easily modify to work. Thank you so much!
No problem! Glad I could help!
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:24 pm
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Catcheen Bucket~Turtle Catcheen Bucket~Turtle So, I'm makingthis hat for my friend. I have plenty of time, so that's not the issue.
But do you have a tutorial I could use for it?
My main question was what kind of yarn to use. It looks bigger in some places then others.. Sorry, I think there's only tutorials for knitting skills rather than whole patterns. I've never seen a pattern like that either. It looks to me that it is knit like a hat, but never decreases at the top and is folded down. The yarn is a bulky (possibly super bulky) weight thick and thin yarn. It's doubtful that you'll find anything like that at a local crafting store. You'll probably need to hit up a local yarn store or even buy it online. Hope that helped a bit! Ah, that did help! I'm a sewing type of person, and just recently got into knitting, so I didn't know there was such thing as 'thick and thin' yarn. I was like: 'WTF, why does it do that?' XDD
I found the perfect yarn online, and I actually think I have a pattern in my first knitting book that I can easily modify to work. Thank you so much! No problem! Glad I could help!
Ah, one last thing. What size of needles would you recommend I use for it? I didn't get like..super bulky yarn, but I did find pretty bulky thick and thin yarn. I got this stuff, only in the right color. I don't know what size of needle I'll need to get the right size for the hat..
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:21 am
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Bucket~Turtle Catcheen Bucket~Turtle Catcheen Bucket~Turtle So, I'm makingthis hat for my friend. I have plenty of time, so that's not the issue.
But do you have a tutorial I could use for it?
My main question was what kind of yarn to use. It looks bigger in some places then others.. Sorry, I think there's only tutorials for knitting skills rather than whole patterns. I've never seen a pattern like that either. It looks to me that it is knit like a hat, but never decreases at the top and is folded down. The yarn is a bulky (possibly super bulky) weight thick and thin yarn. It's doubtful that you'll find anything like that at a local crafting store. You'll probably need to hit up a local yarn store or even buy it online. Hope that helped a bit! Ah, that did help! I'm a sewing type of person, and just recently got into knitting, so I didn't know there was such thing as 'thick and thin' yarn. I was like: 'WTF, why does it do that?' XDD
I found the perfect yarn online, and I actually think I have a pattern in my first knitting book that I can easily modify to work. Thank you so much! No problem! Glad I could help! Ah, one last thing. What size of needles would you recommend I use for it? I didn't get like..super bulky yarn, but I did find pretty bulky thick and thin yarn. I got this stuff, only in the right color. I don't know what size of needle I'll need to get the right size for the hat..
I'd go with whatever size the yarn calls for.
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