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Shigeru the Hero

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:30 pm
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Yeah. Practically inviting the physical sweepers like Metagross and Salamence to come in.  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:32 pm
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Nah I already have a pokemon with shadow ball  

Muleferdan


PhoenixBlade983

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:34 pm
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Yeah. Practically inviting the physical sweepers like Metagross and Salamence to come in.

Yours didn't give any help against them either mad
Plus Reflect would do absolutely nothing against sweepers with base attack that high.  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:40 pm
PhoenixBlade983
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Yeah. Practically inviting the physical sweepers like Metagross and Salamence to come in.

Yours didn't give any help against them either mad
Plus Reflect would do absolutely nothing against sweepers with base attack that high.


Shigeru's Way
Espeon comes out.

Espeon uses Reflect.
Opponent sweeper switches in.

Espeon switches out.
Switched in Pokemon has double def.


Phoenix's Way
Espeon comes out.

Opponent switches into walling sweeper.
Espeon uses attack/CM. Does little to no damage.

Espeon switches.
Pokemon being switched to gets pummelled.


Don't doubt me. Thanks.  

Shigeru the Hero


Deathguiser

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:14 pm
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

this is the best movset for espeon. espeeon is a sweeper, and sweepers don't usually use reflect. This movset is very good, and with clam mind espeon is great against special sweepers.  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:24 pm
Deathguiser
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

this is the best movset for espeon. espeeon is a sweeper, and sweepers don't usually use reflect. This movset is very good, and with clam mind espeon is great against special sweepers.

Did you even bother reading my above post?

You people clearly have no prediction talents.

Shadow Ball won't kill anything anyways.

Dare someone to name 3 standard Pokemon that gets killed by Shadow Ball.  

Shigeru the Hero


Pay Per Cuts

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:01 pm
Uhh, Espeon, Starmie, Alakazam? Basically anything psychic. (and ghost, but there's psychic)  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:08 pm
My roserade almost killed a gengar with it...but it had focus sash  

Muleferdan


Deathguiser

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:08 pm
unless they pull out a speci sponge, they will take plenty damage, and calm mind, as I said, will keep it from dying at the hands of special sweepers....every pokemon has a weakness in its stats.....  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:00 am
Pay Per Cuts
Uhh, Espeon, Starmie, Alakazam? Basically anything psychic. (and ghost, but there's psychic)

Oh.

Damn.

Well, they won't be switching those into a Espeon. And Espeon better not be switching into one of those.

I still say patching up Espeon's defence is better than trying to cover more types.

And even with a special sponge, there's CM. Enough of it can take down sponges.

Also, there's always the CM BP'ing moveset that has yet to be mentioned.  

Shigeru the Hero


Greed The Deadly Sin

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:24 am
I DON'T CARE ENOUGH FOR ESPEON! he dosen't deserve captital letters talk2hand  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:31 pm
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Yeah. Practically inviting the physical sweepers like Metagross and Salamence to come in.

Yours didn't give any help against them either mad
Plus Reflect would do absolutely nothing against sweepers with base attack that high.


Shigeru's Way
Espeon comes out.

Espeon uses Reflect.
Opponent sweeper switches in.

Espeon switches out.
Switched in Pokemon has double def.


Phoenix's Way
Espeon comes out.

Opponent switches into walling sweeper.
Espeon uses attack/CM. Does little to no damage.

Espeon switches.
Pokemon being switched to gets pummelled.


Don't doubt me. Thanks.

I was talking about using Espeon 1v1, not a team battle, because for a team battle yours would work better.
However, in a 1v1 battle against a psyichal sweeper, your Espeon=PWNED!  

PhoenixBlade983


Shigeru the Hero

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:11 pm
PhoenixBlade983
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
Shigeru K
PhoenixBlade983
No Espeon @ Wise Glasses
252 SpAttack/252 Speed
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot

Yeah. Practically inviting the physical sweepers like Metagross and Salamence to come in.

Yours didn't give any help against them either mad
Plus Reflect would do absolutely nothing against sweepers with base attack that high.


Shigeru's Way
Espeon comes out.

Espeon uses Reflect.
Opponent sweeper switches in.

Espeon switches out.
Switched in Pokemon has double def.


Phoenix's Way
Espeon comes out.

Opponent switches into walling sweeper.
Espeon uses attack/CM. Does little to no damage.

Espeon switches.
Pokemon being switched to gets pummelled.


Don't doubt me. Thanks.

I was talking about using Espeon 1v1, not a team battle, because for a team battle yours would work better.
However, in a 1v1 battle against a psyichal sweeper, your Espeon=PWNED!

So you don't switch? Man you suck.

P.S. Your Espeon wouldn't stand a chance either you idiot. At least my set allows for hope (misses).

greed the deadly sin
I DON'T CARE ENOUGH FOR ESPEON! he dosen't deserve captital letters talk2hand

You also don't care enough for yourself seeing as your username has no capital letters.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:23 pm
Shigeru likes to quote and edit a lot, but he's right Espeon is most likely going to be KO'd by a Blissey or a Snorlax.  

Kunx990


Shigeru the Hero

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:27 pm
Kunx990
Shigeru likes to quote and edit a lot, but he's right Espeon is most likely going to be KO'd by a Blissey or a Snorlax.

But I never edited anyone's quote in this thread. >.>  
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