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Zaakii

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:59 am


Islam the number 1 Deen
wrong, wrong, wrong, wheres the hadith that u can celebrate birthdays? and it better be a authentic hadtith too

LOL? A hidith about birthey?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:50 am


Post the hadith that says birthey is haram... I wana see it smile

Zaakii


Islam the number 1 Deen

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:49 am


Ok u say b'days r allowed right? then hwo come everyone doesn't celebrate them, and u kno i'm right so dont try to slither out of this one zaaki
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:39 am


Islam the number 1 Deen
Ok u say b'days r allowed right? then hwo come everyone doesn't celebrate them, and u kno i'm right so dont try to slither out of this one zaaki

Can you post the hadith plz smile

You know it's allowed to eat mango... How come everyone dosen't eat it?

Zaakii


bloodlesshino2000

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:48 am


well happy birthday zaaki
mine is 24th june
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:52 am


bloodlesshino2000
well happy birthday zaaki
mine is 24th june

Thanks smile

Zaakii


bloodlesshino2000

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:00 pm


Zaaki
bloodlesshino2000
well happy birthday zaaki
mine is 24th june

Thanks smile
welcome
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:26 am


exactly it isnt allowed zaaki, ok next time wen u meet sum1 like a scholar then ask them if it is ok to celebrate birthdays ok? and do not make everything i say in to a joke.  

Islam the number 1 Deen


Zaakii

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:58 am


Islam the number 1 Deen
exactly it isnt allowed zaaki, ok next time wen u meet sum1 like a scholar then ask them if it is ok to celebrate birthdays ok? and do not make everything i say in to a joke.

I don't meet scholars... And becuz everyone don't eat onion, it dosen't mean it's gunha to eat it... OK?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:30 am


o so now i can't celebrate my birthday? that is the wierdest thing i have ever heard. There is no rule in Islam that says that muslims can't celebrate their birthdays. It's not wrong that i have a sweet 16.

queen_of_karate


Zaakii

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:37 am


I whant a prove that i can't celebrate my birthey. Can you show me the hadith who says that it's gunha to celebrate birthey?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:42 pm


Zaaki
I whant a prove that i can't celebrate my birthey. Can you show me the hadith who says that it's gunha to celebrate birthey?


Yes... there is...

First of all, let me introduce you the origin of birthday celebration itself.

This tradition came from Europe. That time, they believed the birthday of someone will make devils come near the one having birthday. Then, they thought it was necessary to prevent from that thing happens.

The family of the one having birthday must accompany him or her, so the devils won't come near. They chant prayers together as a barrier from them, and give presents to make devils think once again since all of them is having a good time and no sadness around them. Indeed, Birthday Celebration was a legacy of Europe's Dark Ages....

According to the records found in an unknown region. Birthday celebrations was only for kings. But, as time passes by, ordinary people, especially those who possesses extra money, celebrate it too, that's why until now, some of children used a crown made from paper in someone's birthday celebration.

Muslim in Rasulullah saw ages never celebrated their birthday... they have a hadits echoed in their head.... and what would be it?

"Those who acts like a society, is a part of that society"
Shahih Abu Dawud.

Can't you see where this was originated? Dark Ages: The Fall of Western Rome and chaos was everywhere. Yet this tradition was did by idol worshipers.... Why would we want to be a part of them?

Conclusion: Birthday celebrations are Haram.

I predicted some of those who read this will ask this:

"Well, but it is okay to celebrate birthday by just, eat together, and chant prayers based on Islamic syariah, without that blowing candles and all that, right?"

I'm afraid the answer is, no. It's because the condition of "tasyabbuh bil kuffar" (traditions of infidels). Eating and chanting prayers together are fine, but doing it in the birthday of someone in purpose of celebrating the person birthday, would be haram.

According to the book of as-Sulam by Abdul Hamid Hakim:

"Idza ijtama'a al halaalu wal haraamu, ghalaba al haramu al halaala."

Translation: When a halal thing meets a haram thing (in one condition), the haram will overcome the halal.

Due to that condition, such celebration is Haram.

An addition to convince you....


"And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing, or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."


Qur'an Surah Al Isra, verse 36.

Another conclusion: Do not do or say something if you don't know what it really means.

Wassalam.

Count of Mistekreuz


Zaakii

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:21 am


Count of Mistekreuz
Zaaki
I whant a prove that i can't celebrate my birthey. Can you show me the hadith who says that it's gunha to celebrate birthey?


Yes... there is...

First of all, let me introduce you the origin of birthday celebration itself.

This tradition came from Europe. That time, they believed the birthday of someone will make devils come near the one having birthday. Then, they thought it was necessary to prevent from that thing happens.

The family of the one having birthday must accompany him or her, so the devils won't come near. They chant prayers together as a barrier from them, and give presents to make devils think once again since all of them is having a good time and no sadness around them. Indeed, Birthday Celebration was a legacy of Europe's Dark Ages....

According to the records found in an unknown region. Birthday celebrations was only for kings. But, as time passes by, ordinary people, especially those who possesses extra money, celebrate it too, that's why until now, some of children used a crown made from paper in someone's birthday celebration.

Muslim in Rasulullah saw ages never celebrated their birthday... they have a hadits echoed in their head.... and what would be it?

"Those who acts like a society, is a part of that society"
Shahih Abu Dawud.

Can't you see where this was originated? Dark Ages: The Fall of Western Rome and chaos was everywhere. Yet this tradition was did by idol worshipers.... Why would we want to be a part of them?

Conclusion: Birthday celebrations are Haram.

I predicted some of those who read this will ask this:

"Well, but it is okay to celebrate birthday by just, eat together, and chant prayers based on Islamic syariah, without that blowing candles and all that, right?"

I'm afraid the answer is, no. It's because the condition of "tasyabbuh bil kuffar" (traditions of infidels). Eating and chanting prayers together are fine, but doing it in the birthday of someone in purpose of celebrating the person birthday, would be haram.

According to the book of as-Sulam by Abdul Hamid Hakim:

"Idza ijtama'a al halaalu wal haraamu, ghalaba al haramu al halaala."

Translation: When a halal thing meets a haram thing (in one condition), the haram will overcome the halal.

Due to that condition, such celebration is Haram.

An addition to convince you....


"And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing, or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."


Qur'an Surah Al Isra, verse 36.

Another conclusion: Do not do or say something if you don't know what it really means.

Wassalam.

I celebrate birthey becuz to meet my family. And birthey does not mean that im cristian. It's nothing like hallowen. It's just the day i got born, and i celebrate that. Because i'm happy whit who i am.

My uncle celebrates hes childrens birthey, hes not a imam. But a sholar who teaches qur'an. And it's also hem who gave me that a hadith when i was litlle.

I celebrate my birthey. And where is the hadith????? Your just telling how it came.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:50 am


Zaaki
I celebrate birthey becuz to meet my family. And birthey does not mean that im cristian. It's nothing like hallowen. It's just the day i got born, and i celebrate that. Because i'm happy whit who i am.

My uncle celebrates hes childrens birthey, hes not a imam. But a sholar who teaches qur'an. And it's also hem who gave me that a hadith when i was litlle.

I celebrate my birthey. And where is the hadith????? Your just telling how it came.


The Hadits is this, Zaaki:

"Those who acts like a society, is a part of that society"
Shahih Abu Dawud.

Count of Mistekreuz


joody_abot

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:32 am


Zaaki
Asalam Arllaykum! Here you can tell when it's your birthey. Then you whill hopefully get lotsa gifts biggrin


hey ^^ my BD is july 29 mrgreen
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