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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:21 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:49 am
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Sanguina Cruenta Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:21 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:38 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:22 pm
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Mnemosyne-rae Again, sorry I'm about to have another major "duh" moment, So, the Sabbats, or atleast major ones like Samhain and Yule, do not have a "set date"? I'm just re-clarifying just, because I always thought those dates were October 31st which did correlate with other beliefs or holidays following Christianity and then I thought Yule was always on the winter solstice which was either December 21st-22nd. Where is this calendar?! Are there calendars that actually have the Sabbats on them that can be found in stores or are they actually online and you have to order them? (Sorry this is totally off candle magick sweatdrop )
It's, as San said, ancient. Many cultures used various types of calendar devices - stone circles and various types of henge, in many places - to track the movement of the sun and moon, and use them for the basis of their sacred days. Those days would have been the same every year in an ancient society, but because of the way the sun and moon move compared to the modern Gregorian calendar's structure means that dates calculated astrologically move around a bit. So you can say that a date is generally within a few days range of a certain time every year, with some days more likely than others, but the date will not always be the same.
I'm sure you can buy astrological calendars that will tell you the degree of the Sun on a particular day, but as for specifically Pagan calendars that do so I couldn't tell you.
Modern neo-pagans who can't be arsed with trying to figure out an astrologically-based holiday structure tend to use fixed dates, that they make up for themselves with various reasonings and rationales. Bear in mind that the 'Wheel of the Year' as we know it now is essentially a modern construct that came about when Gardner created Wicca - and it was quickly co-opted by various forms of eclectic neo-pagan witchcrafts. The Sabbats are a blend of different cultural holidays that were brought to Britain by multiple waves of invaders, and have a basis in Britain's agricultural cycles. None of these individual ancient peoples would have celebrated all of the Sabbats - most cultures had 3 or 4 major holidays based on the changing seasons. Other holidays for these cultures depended on cultural values and practices.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:54 pm
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