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Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:05 pm


Zaaki
Ratri_Cat
Zaaki
Imad Jibril
Zaaki

Yea, if you eat too much. And then you die, then Allah(swt) whill thake it as a sureside.
I think the point of the argument was that Ratri thinks it's silly, as well as i do, that angels will not enter your home because of stupid pictures.


Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!

And i think it's stupid that humans need oxygen to live neutral

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
Humans and all carbon-based forms need oxygen to breathe. Regardless of whether you think it's stupid or not.
The notion that angels will not enter you house because of images sounds likes superstitious bullshit to me. It's not like you guys are worshiping the images!



Why do humans need oxygen just becuz they are carbon-based forms?
Because oxygen is one of the essential elements for living creatures.
And it qualifies you to be alive.
If you didn't need oxgen, or some other element to be able to reproduce, grow, adapt to the environment, ect....then you wouldn't be alive.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:37 pm


Ratri_Cat
Zaaki
Imad Jibril
Zaaki
Ratri_Cat
Lily Da Bangali Rani


If you have pictures in your house then Allah's angels will not come to check on you, therefore when you pray, your prays will not be as powerful as they should be... this means turn off tv's, pc's and get rid of all pictures in your house otherwise no angels will ever enter your house...

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

Seems like Allah is afraid of competition or something? They're just images! They have no significance whatsoever? Why would an angel or Allah seriously care if you have pictures in your house? Should Allah also be discriminatory of your weight as well?
This doesn't make any sense to me.



Yea, if you eat too much. And then you die, then Allah(swt) whill thake it as a sureside.
I think the point of the argument was that Ratri thinks it's silly, as well as i do, that angels will not enter your home because of stupid pictures.


Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!

And i think it's stupid that humans need oxygen to live neutral

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
Humans and all carbon-based forms need oxygen to breathe. Regardless of whether you think it's stupid or not.
The notion that angels will not enter you house because of images sounds likes superstitious bullshit to me. It's not like you guys are worshiping the images!




Your not a very nice person, cussing Muslims and the Qur'an is not the best of things to do missy!

Also why are you swearing?

It's a sin to swear even as Christian, Catholic etc etc ect...

Lily Da Bangali Rani



Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:55 pm


Lily Da Bangali Rani


Your not a very nice person, cussing Muslims and the Qur'an is not the best of things to do missy!

Also why are you swearing?

It's a sin to swear even as Christian, Catholic etc etc ect...

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

*Sigh* I'm not swearing at Muslims I'm swearing in general...eh, it's an Army thing.
you would too, if you lived in the Army.
Back to the argument...
I personally think that the belief concerning the pictures is superstitious silliness. It has no real value, because no person in their right mind would worship and image anyway (unless it's part of their religion like in Hinduism).
I don't see the whole deal about the pictures. Why should allah care if you have pictures of your family or loved ones up? It's not like your are going to pray to them!


PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:06 pm


Ratri_Cat
Lily Da Bangali Rani


Your not a very nice person, cussing Muslims and the Qur'an is not the best of things to do missy!

Also why are you swearing?

It's a sin to swear even as Christian, Catholic etc etc ect...

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

*Sigh* I'm not swearing at Muslims I'm swearing in general...eh, it's an Army thing.
you would too, if you lived in the Army.
Back to the argument...
I personally think that the belief concerning the pictures is superstitious silliness. It has no real value, because no person in their right mind would worship and image anyway (unless it's part of their religion like in Hinduism).
I don't see the whole deal about the pictures. Why should allah care if you have pictures of your family or loved ones up? It's not like your are going to pray to them!




Ok cause you hang around with the army that's why you swear... shows how weak you are... must be the same reason why you think being gay is ok... you hang around with a gay called Jibril by chance? (He from gaia)


Anyway... at no point did i say i pray to the pictures... lol

Once again you didn't read my post properly... go back and read it and understand it... then ask me a question that's worthy of answering...

Lily Da Bangali Rani


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:07 pm


According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:08 pm


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.


Nice info... going to check the link later when i get more time 3nodding

Lily Da Bangali Rani



Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:17 pm


Lily Da Bangali Rani

Ok cause you hang around with the army that's why you swear... shows how weak you are...

Swearing is not a weakness of character if you can control it. If you think that is swearing, then I suggest you look elsewhere.
I don't hang around the Army, I'm in the Army.

Lily Da Bangali Rani
must be the same reason why you think being gay is ok... you hang around with a gay called Jibril by chance? (He from gaia)-

The ability to think outside the box isn't a weakness of character either. I call it intelligence.
Yes, he's a personal friend of mine that I helped out of a few scrapes. I also helped him take care of his little brothers at one point.

Lily Da Bangali Rani

Anyway... at no point did i say i pray to the pictures... lol

I didn't claim you did, I merely said that the notion that having picture in your house is wrong is silly and it's not like ANYONE would worship the pictures. Read between the lines, sweetheart. I wasn't calling you out on doing such a thing. I was speaking generally, using the pronoun, "you".
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:18 pm


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.
you mean of nonhuman animals, right?


Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:28 pm


Ratri_Cat
Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.
you mean of nonhuman animals, right?


i mean the buildings or things that does not breathe. or those that weren't naturally created are allowed to be taken a picture.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:30 pm


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
Ratri_Cat
Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.
you mean of nonhuman animals, right?


i mean the buildings or things that does not breathe. or those that weren't naturally created are allowed to be taken a picture.
so then people like Leonardo Da Vinci are pretty much screwed then?


Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun


Lily Da Bangali Rani

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:31 pm


Ratri_Cat
Lily Da Bangali Rani

Ok cause you hang around with the army that's why you swear... shows how weak you are...

Swearing is not a weakness of character if you can control it. If you think that is swearing, then I suggest you look elsewhere.
I don't hang around the Army, I'm in the Army.

Lily Da Bangali Rani
must be the same reason why you think being gay is ok... you hang around with a gay called Jibril by chance? (He from gaia)-

The ability to think outside the box isn't a weakness of character either. I call it intelligence.
Yes, he's a personal friend of mine that I helped out of a few scrapes. I also helped him take care of his little brothers at one point.

Lily Da Bangali Rani

Anyway... at no point did i say i pray to the pictures... lol

I didn't claim you did, I merely said that the notion that having picture in your house is wrong is silly and it's not like ANYONE would worship the pictures. Read between the lines, sweetheart. I wasn't calling you out on doing such a thing. I was speaking generally, using the pronoun, "you".



Yes it is, swearing is a very big weakness, you can't control your mouth or your emotions, or the way you act only cause your hanging with the army doesn't mean it should affect your language unless your weak...

Also you keep saying "it's not like no ones going to worship the picture"...
When you go to church you pray to a picture... so coming from you it's very weird.

I've seen people at church looking at the statues of saint Mary and praying to her... it's a statue for Christ sake... it ain't real!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:33 pm


Ratri_Cat
Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
Ratri_Cat
Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore
According to what i've read from this site: http://muttaqun.com/pictures.html
it is not right to make pictures of animate objects because it would be like saying that you can parallel the work of Allah but without life.
but it is alright to make a picture of inanimate pictures.
you mean of nonhuman animals, right?


i mean the buildings or things that does not breathe. or those that weren't naturally created are allowed to be taken a picture.
so then people like Leonardo Da Vinci are pretty much screwed then?


for me? logically.

Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore



Slick Southpaw


Feral Faun

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:02 pm


Lily Da Bangali Rani

Also you keep saying "it's not like no ones going to worship the picture"...
When you go to church you pray to a picture... so coming from you it's very weird.

I've seen people at church looking at the statues of saint Mary and praying to her... it's a statue for Christ sake... it ain't real!

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
what the hell are you talking about?
Just because there are images doesn't mean we pray to them. We're just looking at them. We know that there is nothing real or alive in the statues or the pictures.
We simply LOOK.

there is a difference between worshipping the image and looking at it. we look at the image and happen to pray in that direction.
Some are for ornamental purposes only...no one actually worships the very image itself.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:19 pm


Ratri_Cat
Lily Da Bangali Rani

Also you keep saying "it's not like no ones going to worship the picture"...
When you go to church you pray to a picture... so coming from you it's very weird.

I've seen people at church looking at the statues of saint Mary and praying to her... it's a statue for Christ sake... it ain't real!

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
what the hell are you talking about?
Just because there are images doesn't mean we pray to them. We're just looking at them. We know that there is nothing real or alive in the statues or the pictures.
We simply LOOK.

there is a difference between worshipping the image and looking at it. we look at the image and happen to pray in that direction.
Some are for ornamental purposes only...no one actually worships the very image itself.


Ratri, I don't think you'll ever get it. Heck, I'm Muslim and it still baffles me. Just accept it as a weird tradition. Just like how people perceive devotion to Maryam (the Virgin Mary) in Catholicism and as a Christain you believe that Isa (Jesus) is a form of God.
Both Lily and you are arguing in circles and practically go off topic as you try to get the last word in. Just drop it. We know the story we told you what the Qu'ran said. If you can't get your mind around it, it's not your fault as you are unaccustomed to Islamic thinking. But please stop this nasty back and forth argument that goes absolutely nowhere.


Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!

The Dead Terrorist Achmed


Prof Albus PWB Dumbledore

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:03 am


correct me if i'm wrong.
but i've come to a logic u know.

will it be that pictures aren't allowed cause they're considered blasphemous?

you know, you create another thing that is exactly the same image as yours minus the breathe of life considering that only Allah has the power to create 'things like that'. (quoted, i tell you)
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