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 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:25 am
Zaaki @Absurd If the islamic leader's were aggresive the whole world would proberly be filled with muslims! @tassan Dear tassan, the abot strategy is when u talk overwhelmed sweet to someone heart dear Zaaki i pray you remain like this for ever 3nodding *Anime eyes* but why it is called " abot" strategy?
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:28 am
Absurd Thought Zaaki Absurd Thought Zaaki @Absurd If the islamic leader's were aggresive the whole world would proberly be filled with muslims!
That would be horrible. No it woulden't! The muslim emperor's conquered even Europe, and India! Italy spain, and all those big empire's! And from Europe comes other lands wink Example the Phillipines, Africa, Amarica, and those... Soo if the emperor's made it LAW to be muslim, then they would be muslim, EVERYONE! And then there would not be war xd
the war to force everyone to become muslim is disgusting.
just because it was done in the past doesn't mean it was right.yes you are right and islam does not allow that either. Zaaki do not talk anything.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:45 am
It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't.
And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl
And what's does anime eyes means? confused
And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that...
It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart
Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot.
Nice story, eh? lol
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:47 pm
Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol
...what?
I have no idea what you're saying.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:05 pm
Absurd Thought Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol
...what?
I have no idea what you're saying. That's because your a cowgirl
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:08 pm
Zaaki Absurd Thought Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol
...what?
I have no idea what you're saying. That's because your a cowgirl
sweetie, I'm from California, from the city. Ratri is from the southwest.
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:55 am
Bismillah---
This thread is really funny...
I didn't understand Zaaki's story too..
And about wars forcing people to get into Islam wasn't done in the past, those wars that happened was because after the death of Prophet Muhammad ( PBUH ), people thought that Islam ended, and it's ok to return as they were in the past, so they became non-muslims. Even though Abu Bakr ( the first khaleefa after Prophet Muhammad ) said that Muhammad's religon didn't end, people didn't listen, so these wars happened in order to let the Islamic country stay still, and even though people refused to get into Islam, they'd stay in their country, and be non-muslims but pay amount of money ( what we call kharaj ) because they're under the muslim's protection. *** Just clearing up what you guys think *** I haven't heard of wars forcing people to go into Islam, if you're talking about wars in the past, none of them happened to force people to get into Islam they were just to defend muslims.
--- Salam!
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:02 am
Yeye, still a cowgirl like Ratri razz
What the lady luck's cast iron corset! Yew don't understand me?
And the muslims did pay money to the poor people and stuff, and that time it was not much dinari's of tax they gave wink But if the muslim emepror's did force people to be muslims, proberly whole world would be muslim lands wink
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:25 am
Zaaki Yeye, still a cowgirl like Ratri razz What the lady luck's cast iron corset! Yew don't understand me? And the muslims did pay money to the poor people and stuff, and that time it was not much dinari's of tax they gave wink But if the muslim emepror's did force people to be muslims, proberly whole world would be muslim lands wink
Well, if so, maybe it would. But the thing that keeps Islam so cool that it makes people go into this religon without having to force them, by really being convinced that this is the one true religon!
Not to mention that on the Abassi Khelafa ( The Abassi Period ) The Islamic country reached India from the east, and Spain from the west. So, it's almost half of the world was an Islamic country. Subhan Allah..
-- Salam!
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:16 am
It's alhamdulillah very good xd I just think that the muslim country's should get more advanced... And stuff like amarica and europe should get more muslims 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:40 pm
Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol hahahaha !!! thats a funni story -- an i and Zaaki the only one who get this story -- i think ill use the abot strategy aswell!! *thinking...* salaam dear muslims, may Allah bless u with great things such as imaan, and people who are great for inventing strategies (namely -- the abot strategy, invented by dear zaaki) which comes from people who very kind hearted (the lovely joody_abot) , alhamdulillah, and have a revelutionary way to defeat your enemies and people who fight with u in an islamic manner, allah bless .. ameen!! rofl rofl @joody_abot - do u really talk like that -- i would find it embarrasing - i dont know y - probably cuz no 1 talks like that these days!! @zaaki - great invention - but it does sound gayish - especially when a guy talks 2 a guy like that, hehe - cut out the 'dear' then its not that gayish - its islamic!! xd biggrin heart
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:57 am
spottystripes Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol hahahaha !!! thats a funni story -- an i and Zaaki the only one who get this story -- i think ill use the abot strategy aswell!! *thinking...* salaam dear muslims, may Allah bless u with great things such as imaan, and people who are great for inventing strategies (namely -- the abot strategy, invented by dear zaaki) which comes from people who very kind hearted (the lovely joody_abot) , alhamdulillah, and have a revelutionary way to defeat your enemies and people who fight with u in an islamic manner, allah bless .. ameen!! rofl rofl @joody_abot - do u really talk like that -- i would find it embarrasing - i dont know y - probably cuz no 1 talks like that these days!! @zaaki - great invention - but it does sound gayish - especially when a guy talks 2 a guy like that, hehe - cut out the 'dear' then its not that gayish - its islamic!! xd biggrin heart You proberly woulden't understand if u diden't talk to her razz And people don't like that way... It's like i have to be extra sweet 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:57 am
Zaaki spottystripes Zaaki It's not halal to force ore to kill women ore children... But that dossen't close the door, that they coulden't. And dear tassan, it's a li'l gayish ain't it? rofl And what's does anime eyes means? confused And it's called the abot strategy, because joody_abot (A persian pograming student) talks to me like that (Salam dear Zaki, sweatheart, Allah bless you) and stuff like that... It's somethimes really shocking eek I asked her if she talked like that in real, and she said yes people like when i talk like that heart Soo that strategy is aparting abot witch comes from the name joody_abot. Nice story, eh? lol hahahaha !!! thats a funni story -- an i and Zaaki the only one who get this story -- i think ill use the abot strategy aswell!! *thinking...* salaam dear muslims, may Allah bless u with great things such as imaan, and people who are great for inventing strategies (namely -- the abot strategy, invented by dear zaaki) which comes from people who very kind hearted (the lovely joody_abot) , alhamdulillah, and have a revelutionary way to defeat your enemies and people who fight with u in an islamic manner, allah bless .. ameen!! rofl rofl @joody_abot - do u really talk like that -- i would find it embarrasing - i dont know y - probably cuz no 1 talks like that these days!! @zaaki - great invention - but it does sound gayish - especially when a guy talks 2 a guy like that, hehe - cut out the 'dear' then its not that gayish - its islamic!! xd biggrin heart You proberly woulden't understand if u diden't talk to her razz And people don't like that way... It's like i have to be extra sweet 3nodding now that uve mentioned it - i dont think that ive spoken to her.. sweatdrop confused
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:15 am
She ain't that active razz
But she got that weird magik in her words wink
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:02 pm
Mini_Angel_1994 Bismillah---
This thread is really funny...
I didn't understand Zaaki's story too..
And about wars forcing people to get into Islam wasn't done in the past, those wars that happened was because after the death of Prophet Muhammad ( PBUH ), people thought that Islam ended, and it's ok to return as they were in the past, so they became non-muslims. Even though Abu Bakr ( the first khaleefa after Prophet Muhammad ) said that Muhammad's religon didn't end, people didn't listen, so these wars happened in order to let the Islamic country stay still, and even though people refused to get into Islam, they'd stay in their country, and be non-muslims but pay amount of money ( what we call kharaj ) because they're under the muslim's protection. *** Just clearing up what you guys think *** I haven't heard of wars forcing people to go into Islam, if you're talking about wars in the past, none of them happened to force people to get into Islam they were just to defend muslims.
--- Salam! @ The bold section: Correction, You point to the Ridda Wars, In which Abu Bakr sent his supposed General Khalid ibn al-Walid in which at the conquest of Mecca he disobeyed The Prophet's (S.A.W) orders. Quote: Khalid inaugurated his acceptance of Islam by behaving contrarily to the orders issued by the Messenger of Allah not to kill anyone. Khalid entered Mecca on the conquest day after having killed more than thirty men who belonged mostly to Quraysh although the Prophet had clearly instructed them not to kill anyone. Quote: "It does not behove any believing man or woman to make any choice in their matter once Allah and His Apostle have decided it, and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger surely strays off a manifest straying" (Holy Qur'an, 33:36). Quote: Having made this brief expose of the principle of ijtihad, let us see how Khalid ibn al-Waleed disobeyed the order issued by the Messenger of Allah on another occasion when he was sent by the Prophet to Banu Juthaymah to invite them to Islam. The Prophet did not order Khalid to fight anyone. Yet Khalid went there and afflicted them with treachery even after their declaration of acceptance of Islam, killing some of them in cold blood, so much so that Abd al-Rahman ibn Awf, who was an eye witness to that incident, said that Khalid had killed them only out of his desire to seek revenge for both of his uncles whom Banu Juthaymah had killed. And again... Quote: On p. 61, Vol. 2, of his Tarikh, al-Ya`qubi says that Abd al-Rahman said, "By Allah! It is Khalid who killed these people though they are Muslims." Khalid responded by saying, "Rather, I have killed them to avenge your father Awf ibn Abd Awf." Abd al-Rahman then said to him, "No, you did not avenge my father, but you avenged your uncle al-Faqih ibn al-Mugheerah." See, may Allah protect you, how Khalid did not deny that he killed those people although they were Muslims but rather admitted that he killed them seeking revenge for Awf, Abd al-Rahman's father. Does this, according to Allah's creed, permit him to massacre a group of people for the murder of one single man? Is it permissible to kill several Muslims for the killing of one kafir? As shown to Khalid's "Merits" The rebels in the apostate wars are actually seen to have been simply not paying tax, but still prayed, So it wasn't as pre-islamic times due to most of the rebels being in favor of Ali (PBUH) rising to the Caliphate. Quote: This phenomenon was later regarded as primarily a religious movement by Arabic historians. However, the early sources indicate that in reality it was mainly political. After all, the revolting Arabs only refused to pay taxes, but they did not refuse to perform the salah. Quote: The Muslims believe that although there were some people that took the opportunity to proclaim themselves as prophets, the majority of people who battled against Abu Bakr were people who expected Ali to be the next Caliph, since they believe that Muhammad was expressing this wish at the Hadith of the two weighty things. This can be revealed by reading more about Khalid rather than just Sunnah's, As well as the historic events.
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