Islam and Rape

[Thou Exalted]

Ratri_Cat

No it isn't.

It doesn't matter whether the victim is female, male, young, or older. It doesn't matter the racial background, it doesn't matter the religion. LUST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAPE.

I demand that you provide adequate proof that lust is a major part of rape.

Studies have shown again and again it is PURELY DOMINANCE.

http://www.statenews.com/index.php/article/2005/10/clothes_contribute_to

But I agree that many circumstances show dominance such as Warfare tactics.  

[Zaakii]

It's not allowed to rape, and the diffrence by hijab weared and non-hijab weared women is, that if a non-hijab wearing woman gets raped. Then IT'S HER OWN FAULT, and she whill proberly get gunha! But ofcurse the raper whill also get gunha!

These words are wroten by me, i don't know the qur'an text!  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

Zaaki

It's not allowed to rape, and the diffrence by hijab weared and non-hijab weared women is, that if a non-hijab wearing woman gets raped. Then IT'S HER OWN FAULT, and she whill proberly get gunha! But ofcurse the raper whill also get gunha!

These words are wroten by me, i don't know the qur'an text!

The woman is the victim. She should not be punished.
I don't wear hijab. I'm sure that Ratri doesn't, either.
But you're saying that, if one of us were to be raped, it would be our fault for not wearing the correct clothes?

Um, yeah, no. I disagree. neutral Strongly.  

[Zaakii]

It whill thake too long time to prove! But if u look at a woman without any hair, and then look at her with hair, u whill see a diffrence!


And those people are just going to the wrong path 3nodding

And u do not judge what i deserve!



And yes the raper is gonna get gunha, i dunno how much... But also the rapped!!  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

Zaaki

It whill thake too long time to prove!

No, Zaaki, Ratri's right. Rape has been proven to be a dominance thing.

Zaaki

But if u look at a woman without any hair, and then look at her with hair, u whill see a diffrence!

...What? Are you trying to say that the girl with hair showing is more attractive? That may be true, but it does not lead to rape. I live in America, and we have attractive girls who can walk around in bikinis and not be raped. So whether you show hair has nothing to do with it.

Zaaki

And those people are just going to the wrong path 3nodding

And u do not judge what i deserve!

I'll admit that Ratri was a little harsh there... but I can't say that I disagree with her. sweatdrop

Zaaki

And yes the raper is gonna get gunha, i dunno how much... But also the rapped!!

No. The victim should not be punished.  

[Zaakii]

How much time of my life i use on this? sweatdrop

1. I was talking about something else... To prove attractiveness!

2. Well... In Amarica girls ain't attractive rofl Just kidding rofl rofl But in Amarica girls also get rapped! They jsut don't count it as a rape, cause in Amarica they rape he others all the time for fun... rolleyes

3. Why? Do u think that i am a rapper ore something?

4. If she were covered, then she shoulden't! And i ain't sure about if the non-covered whill get gunha because of the rape also! But i know the non-covered whill get gunha!  

[Geek Zombie]

whats the point of proving whether rape is lust or dominance?

and zaaki i guess you are wrong! you are not even using common sense!

the one who rapes gets the punishment!

there comes not mistake of the one who gets raped! that's an other perspective of that she is wearing hijab or not!


in Pakistan there are woman who get raped even after wearing hijab - XD peace out  

[Zaakii]

tassan

whats the point of proving whether rape is lust or dominance?

and zaaki i guess you are wrong! you are not even using common sense!

the one who rapes gets the punishment!

there comes not mistake of the one who gets raped! that's an other perspective of that she is wearing hijab or not!


in Pakistan there are woman who get raped even after wearing hijab - XD peace out

There acturally comes a li'l mistake if the rapped ain't covered! If the rapped is getting gunha, i don't know razz

And i wont say that womens with hijab can't get raped! Cause perverts mostly look at the a**, right? They dun care about a pretty face?  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

Ratri_Cat

I will not stand for Muslim males (or any male for that matter) claiming it's a woman's fault that she gets raped for not being "properly covered".

What she said.

She's right. Men who rape women often try to claim that it was the woman's fault for... for being too sexy. Which, you know, no. =/ Even if rape were about lust, it would be the man's fault for not having better self-control. There is no way possible to blame the woman for this.

And Zaaki, I don't understand what you mean. People aren't raped in America for fun. Because, to begin, if you're doing it for fun, you're consenting to it. If you're consenting, it's not rape. It's just sex.

I know people who have been raped. They certainly did not get raped for fun.

And no, I wasn't calling you a rapist. But you are defending rapists by saying the woman should also be at fault. And that bothers me.  

[Zaakii]

The raper proberly made the biggest fault! But the raped, did not wear cloth! Soo it's pretty much both's fault!

And if the woman did wear clothings, then it was not her fault!



But i'm saying that in Amarica it's kinda always concindered as normal sex! And that's why they say that it is not a rape!  

[Geek Zombie]

BeXlieXve

Men who rape women often try to claim that it was the woman's fault for... for being too sexy. Which, you know, no. =/ Even if rape were about lust, it would be the man's fault for not having better self-control. There is no way possible to blame the woman for this.

its man's fault not woman's but i do not have anything to prove what i am saying (in the point of Islam)