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OberFeldwebel

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:33 am
Fresnel
OberFeldwebel
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war_junky 91
Rommel_Desert_Fox
Where can I get a cheap but reliable gas mask?


http://www.theepicenter.com/military_surplus.html

Scroll down, last two items on the page are a gas mask and replacement filters.


BUYER BEWARE. Most Israeli gas masks were made in the 70's and 80's, and have an effective shelf life of 20 years. Yeah, gas masks have a shelf life. Beyond it they may or may not still work. There's no guarantee.

Might have been 80's-90's and ten years, but either way the point stands.


Yeah, it's the chromium you want to worry about.
Some questions have been brought up about the new gasmasks that don't contain them but are nearing the expiration on the shelf life. No idea what they'll cause now.

Apparently it can poison you after long exposure.

Quote:
The National Research Council's Committee on Toxicology's Subcommittee on Chromium Contamination in Army Face Masks reviewed the possible health risks to soldiers associated with exposure to U.S. Army gas-mask canisters containing activated charcoal impregnated with hexavalent chromium, a carcinogen. The canisters are attached to masks used to detoxify toxic gases, such as hydrogen chloride and cyanogen chloride. In 1982, reports surfaced of dark smudges on the faces of mask users; the smudges were traced to leaking of activated charcoal fines from canisters. The carbon smudging was also associated with some exposure to hexavalent chromium. The subcommittee's review of data provided by the Army on te amounts of chromium released during tests of gas-mask canisters indicated that the amounts of insoluble hexavalent chromium--chromium (VI)-found in the C2 canister (developed by the Canadian Army) and in the field- fixed and redesigned MiOA1 canisters are well within the limits implied by standards set by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health under worst-case mask use conditions. Although those limits were exceeded for unfixed M10A1 canisters, the lifetime cancer risk even in that case was estimated to be less than 1 x 10(-4) under realistic conditions of use.


Canisters have their own separate shelf lives, but you can always buy factory-new ones. I'm talking about the actual mask itself. The rubber loses its flexibility and its ability to create a good seal.


Oh yeah.

Hmm, isn't there a powder or some kind of paste that you can spread on latex or whatever kind of rubber they use on it to keep it supple?

IMO, just keep the mask in a semi-dry place and out of the sun and in lower heat.
I left my Russian gas mask near a window and it turned the rubber a kind of brown. eek  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:08 pm
Wow I didn't think it got that bad out there. I have to wonder, does the ash get inside the house or is it not all that fine?

I guess I got lucky with my K-1 mask. It looks/feels/smelled brand new. Only thing is that I only have one filter, an I want to save that just in case someone does decide to test obama next year  

Man of the Demoneye


Freak_090
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:40 pm
I went to my local mil-surp store and tried on a gasmask that I couldn't breathe through, are there any plugs in them?  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:06 pm
Freak_090
I went to my local mil-surp store and tried on a gasmask that I couldn't breathe through, are there any plugs in them?

Not in mine. Maybe they put one of those plastic things there to keep dust out? What kind was it, if you recall?  

Man of the Demoneye


Freak_090
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:11 pm
Man of the Demoneye
Freak_090
I went to my local mil-surp store and tried on a gasmask that I couldn't breathe through, are there any plugs in them?

Not in mine. Maybe they put one of those plastic things there to keep dust out? What kind was it, if you recall?

It was made out of Grey rubber, had a 5 point (harness?), had two eye wholes, one canister on the left hand side, and a rubber piece on the inside that went around the mouth and nose.  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:59 pm
Freak_090
Man of the Demoneye
Freak_090
I went to my local mil-surp store and tried on a gasmask that I couldn't breathe through, are there any plugs in them?

Not in mine. Maybe they put one of those plastic things there to keep dust out? What kind was it, if you recall?

It was made out of Grey rubber, had a 5 point (harness?), had two eye wholes, one canister on the left hand side, and a rubber piece on the inside that went around the mouth and nose.
The canister might have been sealed on the thread side. They do that so they don't go bad, and if they just stuck it in there for display purposes...  

Fresnel
Crew

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Crash Maniac

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:28 pm
I think its funny... cause here where I'm at in Chino. People are coughing, choking... complaining about how bad the air is....

People turn to me and say.... "Its pretty bad, dont ya think?"

I reply...

"Could be worse, Could smell like death and burning bodies."

Usually shuts'em up.

seriously thou... The air's harsh, but bearable. The fire's burning in areas where its just brush. I'm hoping they get a jump on it before it reaches inhabited areas again. we've lost about 80+ homes just in this area, not counting the Sylmar fire to the north, where 500+ homes and structures have been lost. As of yet, no loss of live. injuries but thats it.  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:52 pm
I had to laugh at the *thumbs up* gas mask pic.

And yeah, i know what its like... big fire happened a few year ago in Florida too, the sun looked just like that as well. It was eerie O__O  

Anima_Raptor


Barru

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:39 am
Anima_Raptor
I had to laugh at the *thumbs up* gas mask pic.

And yeah, i know what its like... big fire happened a few year ago in Florida too, the sun looked just like that as well. It was eerie O__O


I think there was a big brush fire or something over here in Minnesota a while ago.
Not as bad as what's happening in Kali, but it definitely had that burned brush smell in the air and smoke from a distance.  
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 am
Yeah, we get that red sun every so often. Usually it's because California's on fire. That s**t goes farther than you'd think.  

Fresnel
Crew

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war_junky 91

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:25 pm
Got a reply to the email i sent, not much help though.

Quote:

We really don't know. The only thing in English on the box is "2002".


Bryan
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:57 pm
war_junky 91
Got a reply to the email i sent, not much help though.

Quote:

We really don't know. The only thing in English on the box is "2002".


Bryan


What's that now?  

OberFeldwebel


war_junky 91

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:09 pm
OberFeldwebel
war_junky 91
Got a reply to the email i sent, not much help though.

Quote:

We really don't know. The only thing in English on the box is "2002".


Bryan


What's that now?


Sent them an email asking for the the manufacture date of the masks. Thats the reply i got.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:35 pm
war_junky 91
OberFeldwebel
war_junky 91
Got a reply to the email i sent, not much help though.

Quote:

We really don't know. The only thing in English on the box is "2002".


Bryan


What's that now?


Sent them an email asking for the the manufacture date of the masks. Thats the reply i got.


Oh ok.  

OberFeldwebel

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