Why do we hate the DEagle?

[ArmasTermin]

See, this is all making me see even more why revolvers are the big-caliber guns. There are three main problems to big cartridges in auto-loaders.

1 - Large bullets mean large magazines which means big, over-sized grip.

2 - Powerful rounds mean powerful recoil spring which is hard to move and is prone to jamming.

3 - Stiff recoil springs which allow for marginal amount of time for rounds to reach where they need to be fast enough mean heavy springs in magazines to push the rounds up fast enough. Which means small capacity and hard to load.

Where as the revolver has NONE of these issues. The movement of bullets to where they need to go is all performed directly by you, so no jamming. No monstrous recoil springs, just push the thumb stud and the wheel slides out. The bullets aren't in the grip, so they can be huge and your hand is still comfortable, and magazines don't even enter the equation.

I can has .44 now pls?  

[Stoic Socialist]

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

I remember the words "free-floating" in there, but they weren't followed by "barrel". They might have been followed by "magazine", but I don't recall. I think it's possible (and extremely easy) to put the magazine in too far on a closed bolt, causing the rounds to misfeed and jam until you fix it.

You'd think the bottom of the mag-well would be the proper length to stop that from happening though, no?  

[Generic Name Guy]

Fresnel

ArmasTermin

Desert Eagle - $1500-3000
1911 - $700-900ish

Fix'd.

The cheapest I saw DE it was 400.  

[Isitcanbemuletiemnao]

Stoic Socialist

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

I remember the words "free-floating" in there, but they weren't followed by "barrel". They might have been followed by "magazine", but I don't recall. I think it's possible (and extremely easy) to put the magazine in too far on a closed bolt, causing the rounds to misfeed and jam until you fix it.

You'd think the bottom of the mag-well would be the proper length to stop that from happening though, no?

You'd think, but it was just the tiniest bit too short. There's probably a fixer for that somewhere, like Glocks have the Plug.  

[OberFeldwebel]

ArmasTermin

See, this is all making me see even more why revolvers are the big-caliber guns. There are three main problems to big cartridges in auto-loaders.

1 - Large bullets mean large magazines which means big, over-sized grip.

2 - Powerful rounds mean powerful recoil spring which is hard to move and is prone to jamming.

3 - Stiff recoil springs which allow for marginal amount of time for rounds to reach where they need to be fast enough mean heavy springs in magazines to push the rounds up fast enough. Which means small capacity and hard to load.

Where as the revolver has NONE of these issues. The movement of bullets to where they need to go is all performed directly by you, so no jamming. No monstrous recoil springs, just push the thumb stud and the wheel slides out. The bullets aren't in the grip, so they can be huge and your hand is still comfortable, and magazines don't even enter the equation.

I can has .44 now pls?

1. You need big hands.
... kind of like mine.

2. You need tough wrists ... I'm not sure who has those though. Me? Maybe. I'm not sure.
As for the jamming I have no idea.

3. Don't they have those magazine loader things for them? I'm sure it makes it a bit easier.

At the gunshow yesterday this one guy had a Desert Eagle in .44 and he had some kind of rail attached to the top.

I'm not all for Desert Eagles, I hate the hype about them but the dark blued and polished version just says, "Hey, I'm blued. You love blued. Buy me! Please please please! ... I need a good home. sad "

Now for some real badassery.
He also had some kind of semi-auto with a long a** barrel chambered in .30 Carbine.
surprised
Me wanty. He only wanted... $869 for it.  

[Inquisitor Brock]

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

Stoic Socialist

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

Smaller capacity though.

If you can't do it with five, you can't do it with the seven plus one from the Desert Eagle.

Anyways... I think a hand-cannon would be pretty fun to have.
BUT... I'd take a 10mm over .50 AE just about any day.

EDIT: As per price, the S&W .500 is generally about $300 less for the cheaper model NIB.
The Desert Eagle can generally be found for about a grand used up here, though.

I like the looks of a DEagle though. Too big for human hands to easily wield it, but simple enough that Brock could disassemble it and I like the bolt design and the shape of the slide. IIRC, a DEagle won't actually hold +1. The magazine is fiddly if it's inserted on a closed bolt, and jams easily.

I could dismantle one of those ******** if you show me how to do it one time.

That or I'll fiddle with it till I understand it.

It's the reassembly that's hard. >.>

Also, the 500 S&W has about as much felt recoil as some .45s. The compensator isn;t just for show.  

[Stoic Socialist]

Inquisitor Brock

Also, the 500 S&W has about as much felt recoil as some .45s. The compensator isn;t just for show.

Which .45?

Albeit she was cupping her hand, but I still can't think of a .45 that would do that; short of a .454 Casull from a single action revolver w/o a compensator.  

[Isitcanbemuletiemnao]

Inquisitor Brock

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

Stoic Socialist

Isitcanbemuletiemnao

Smaller capacity though.

If you can't do it with five, you can't do it with the seven plus one from the Desert Eagle.

Anyways... I think a hand-cannon would be pretty fun to have.
BUT... I'd take a 10mm over .50 AE just about any day.

EDIT: As per price, the S&W .500 is generally about $300 less for the cheaper model NIB.
The Desert Eagle can generally be found for about a grand used up here, though.

I like the looks of a DEagle though. Too big for human hands to easily wield it, but simple enough that Brock could disassemble it and I like the bolt design and the shape of the slide. IIRC, a DEagle won't actually hold +1. The magazine is fiddly if it's inserted on a closed bolt, and jams easily.

I could dismantle one of those ******** if you show me how to do it one time.

That or I'll fiddle with it till I understand it.

It's the reassembly that's hard. >.>

Also, the 500 S&W has about as much felt recoil as some .45s. The compensator isn;t just for show.

I think you're completely right. It's just a tug in the right place and the whole thing falls apart. The hard part is getting the recoil spring back in place when you reassemble it.  

[Requiem ex Inferni]

Stoic Socialist

Inquisitor Brock

Also, the 500 S&W has about as much felt recoil as some .45s. The compensator isn;t just for show.

Which .45?

Maybe .454 Casull. It's still a .45 cal.