Self Defense Handguns.

[ArmasTermin]

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.  

[Fresnel]

Soul Bain

<******** Handguns.

What the ********? Is that an airsoft tank? Look at the size of that barrel!  

[Anima_Raptor]

Soul Bain

<******** Handguns.

rofl

No, seriously

neutral  

[Freak_090]

uryu ishida

!!!???

It's one of the most common multi-caliber firearms! The .357MAG revolver can safely shoot .38SPCL (+P?) rounds a a cheaper practice or self defense round.

Hell in a .357mag You could use +P+, if you could find it that is..  

[Freak_090]

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense  

[OberFeldwebel]

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Isn't the 10mm Delta Elite the size of a 1911? Or is it the, "Omfg 10mm over penetration!" deal?  

[Desert_Fox_Rommel]

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Overkill: Too much is NEVER enough!  

[OberFeldwebel]

Desert_Fox_Rommel

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Overkill: Too much is NEVER enough!

Agreed, there is no such thing as overkill.
Only underpowered and just right.  

[Desert_Fox_Rommel]

OberFeldwebel

Desert_Fox_Rommel

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Overkill: Too much is NEVER enough!

Agreed, there is no such thing as overkill.
Only underpowered and just right.

I think the corresponding demotivator I was looking for was located somewhere in your random sig.  

[Freak_090]

OberFeldwebel

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Isn't the 10mm Delta Elite the size of a 1911? Or is it the, "Omfg 10mm over penetration!" deal?

Sure, you CAN carry a 1911 concealed, but it isn't very comfortable.

Overkill is great, but not when there are friendlies surrounding your target. I would much rather have to do two double taps than take out the target, AND the friendly behind him  

[OberFeldwebel]

Freak_090

OberFeldwebel

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Isn't the 10mm Delta Elite the size of a 1911? Or is it the, "Omfg 10mm over penetration!" deal?

Sure, you CAN carry a 1911 concealed, but it isn't very comfortable.

Overkill is great, but not when there are friendlies surrounding your target. I would much rather have to do two double taps than take out the target, AND the friendly behind him

Shoulder holster and a jacket?
xd
So, even hollowpoints over penetrate?


Ooo, I have a good pic in my random sig?

I wonder what it is... 3nodding  

[uryu ishida]

Freak_090

OberFeldwebel

Freak_090

ArmasTermin

What, no 10mm?

Personally, I think the caliber wars need to be devided into revolver and auto catagories, since the .357 Mag and .45 Auto can't be compared by themselves without comparing guns they'd be in.

Ideally, though, I'd choose two--a .357 revolver and a high-capacity 9mm.

Yeah, I thought about listing the 10mm, but I didn't think it was worthy of mentioning simply because there aren't any guns in 10mm that you could carry, at least not to my knowledge.

@Soul Bain: SD = SELF-Defense NOT SQUAD-Defense

Isn't the 10mm Delta Elite the size of a 1911? Or is it the, "Omfg 10mm over penetration!" deal?

Sure, you CAN carry a 1911 concealed, but it isn't very comfortable.

Overkill is great, but not when there are friendlies surrounding your target. I would much rather have to do two double taps than take out the target, AND the friendly behind him

There are many people who can, AND DO, comfortably carry full-size 1911s in many modes of carry from OWB, IWB, small of back, shoulder holster, bellyband, any BODY carry. WHat can comfortably be carried rests ENTIRELY with the person doing the carrying.

Need studies on 10mm penetration.  

[OberFeldwebel]

Is this good?

http://www.firearmstactical.com/ammo_data/10mm.htm  

[Stoic Socialist]

Both compacts in 10mm, pick your poison.

1911's can be easily converted, too.  

[Floyd]

.45ACP

But, I would tend to use a shotgun in matters domestic. The risk of harm to innocent neighbors outweighs the absolute assurance of any larger caliber.

The last thing I want is the blood of someone who didn't deserve to be shot on my hands.