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[Sidal]

Not to sound like a smartass or anything, but weren't a majority of rifles developed from civilian arms? I know shotguns and some sniper rifles were developed from their civilian cousins in the hunting arms, but not others.  

[ArmasTermin]

Sidal

Not to sound like a smartass or anything, but weren't a majority of rifles developed from civilian arms? I know shotguns and some sniper rifles were developed from their civilian cousins in the hunting arms, but not others.

Yeah, many military weapons were based on civilian arms and vice-versa. We borrow a lot from each other. Which is why this is an even bigger blow.  

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Freak_090

Requiem6661

See, I don't care if they ban guns or not. Once I'm 18, I'm getting a shotgun. End of discussion. If I have to break the law to get it, then I will. The only difference is that I'll get it sawed-off because it'll already be illegal anyways.

My friend's grandpa has already said that he will keep a firearm in the house even if they completely ban guns.

Besides, the 2nd Amendment is in the Bill of Rights- it's supposed to be a GUARANTEED RIGHT. If they can take that away, then they can also take away freedom of speech, the right to a speedy and fair trial and the right to no search without a warrant. It's just another step along the way of becoming the U.S.S.A.

Sawed off = over-rated and pistol grip = OUCH!

I shot some 12gauge dove loads in a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip and could only handle 2 shots. My dads friend who owns the gun shot about 5 rounds and could barely fire off 2 rounds of 9mm.

You think they haven't?

Freedom of Speech: Patriot Act
No Unlawful Search or Seizure: Patriot Act
Right to a Fair and Speedy Trail: Getmo

Dunno what you were using, but I've shot off flechette and standard #8 rounds in my brother's sawed-off 870, and it didn't hurt one bit. He went out with hot-loaded slugs, but he only did that once or twice. I think the first time he caught himself in the face with the recoil.  

[OberFeldwebel]

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare  

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OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.  

[Freak_090]

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

Kodiak?  

[Fresnel]

Freak_090

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

Kodiak?

Yeah, I bet. I heard someone talking about bagging a grizzly in Alaska that stretched from his ceiling to his floor, and Kodiaks are bigger? I'd want the biggest gun I could carry. Of course, Barretts are heavy, so they're not well suited to hunting, but another light .50 would do fine.  

[Freak_090]

Fresnel

Freak_090

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

Kodiak?

Yeah, I bet. I heard someone talking about bagging a grizzly in Alaska that stretched from his ceiling to his floor, and Kodiaks are bigger? I'd want the biggest gun I could carry. Of course, Barretts are heavy, so they're not well suited to hunting, but another light .50 would do fine.

If you live in Alaska it's doubtful that you wouldn't be taking a snowmobile or ATV when you went out into the woods.  

[OberFeldwebel]

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

African Safari hunting. I saw some where the people rode in the back of the truck up to some boars and shot them. WTF? Anyway, it'll be easier on your back with that Barret.
Bear too.
Jesus Christ bears have a high defense rating, that and their stamina. Jesus Christ.

Besides, we should have a damn excuse for owning something.
If you have the money to buy it then ******** you should be able to own it.
Would you want a Panzerbüchse?
I would.
I want a tank too!


Yeah, all the ranges around here that I know of don't want the .50 being used at them. Ricocheting and s**t.
If only they made Frangible ammo for .50...  

[Fresnel]

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

African Safari hunting. I saw some where the people rode in the back of the truck up to some boars and shot them. WTF? Anyway, it'll be easier on your back with that Barret.
Bear too.
Jesus Christ bears have a high defense rating, that and their stamina. Jesus Christ.

Besides, we should have a damn excuse for owning something.
If you have the money to buy it then ******** you should be able to own it.
Would you want a Panzerbüchse?
I would.
I want a tank too!


Yeah, all the ranges around here that I know of don't want the .50 being used at them. Ricocheting and s**t.
If only they made Frangible ammo for .50...

Ben Avery's shooting range backs up to a mountain, and if you ricochet, a .50 could easily go over the mountain and land on I-17. That would be BAD.

Can you imagine the cost of frangible .50's, though? Standard ball is five bucks a shot.  

[OberFeldwebel]

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

African Safari hunting. I saw some where the people rode in the back of the truck up to some boars and shot them. WTF? Anyway, it'll be easier on your back with that Barret.
Bear too.
Jesus Christ bears have a high defense rating, that and their stamina. Jesus Christ.

Besides, we should have a damn excuse for owning something.
If you have the money to buy it then ******** you should be able to own it.
Would you want a Panzerbüchse?
I would.
I want a tank too!


Yeah, all the ranges around here that I know of don't want the .50 being used at them. Ricocheting and s**t.
If only they made Frangible ammo for .50...

Ben Avery's shooting range backs up to a mountain, and if you ricochet, a .50 could easily go over the mountain and land on I-17. That would be BAD.

Can you imagine the cost of frangible .50's, though? Standard ball is five bucks a shot.

...
$10 p/rnd?
gonk

Yeah, even if they could make them cheap enough demand alone is enough to at least double the price.  

[Fresnel]

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

African Safari hunting. I saw some where the people rode in the back of the truck up to some boars and shot them. WTF? Anyway, it'll be easier on your back with that Barret.
Bear too.
Jesus Christ bears have a high defense rating, that and their stamina. Jesus Christ.

Besides, we should have a damn excuse for owning something.
If you have the money to buy it then ******** you should be able to own it.
Would you want a Panzerbüchse?
I would.
I want a tank too!


Yeah, all the ranges around here that I know of don't want the .50 being used at them. Ricocheting and s**t.
If only they made Frangible ammo for .50...

Ben Avery's shooting range backs up to a mountain, and if you ricochet, a .50 could easily go over the mountain and land on I-17. That would be BAD.

Can you imagine the cost of frangible .50's, though? Standard ball is five bucks a shot.

...
$10 p/rnd?
gonk

Yeah, even if they could make them cheap enough demand alone is enough to at least double the price.

I know API goes for about $10/rnd, so probably.

...Jesus, can you imagine the impact force of a .50 frangible? The .50 is kind of ineffective because it penetrates the target, and THEN expands, but frangible...  

[OberFeldwebel]

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

Fresnel

OberFeldwebel

The way it's worded, which is loosely, it could be any firearm used by the military and was it law enforcement too?

Yeah.

Now, it doesn't necessarily say OUR military.
So really it could apply to ALL military surplus firearms.
Your grandfather, or great grandfather's bring ********/> stare

Of course, if you could find a legitimate sporting purpose for a Barrett .50, you could use it. I know a lot of ranges are banning it though because of its potential for ricochets that go for miles.

African Safari hunting. I saw some where the people rode in the back of the truck up to some boars and shot them. WTF? Anyway, it'll be easier on your back with that Barret.
Bear too.
Jesus Christ bears have a high defense rating, that and their stamina. Jesus Christ.

Besides, we should have a damn excuse for owning something.
If you have the money to buy it then ******** you should be able to own it.
Would you want a Panzerbüchse?
I would.
I want a tank too!


Yeah, all the ranges around here that I know of don't want the .50 being used at them. Ricocheting and s**t.
If only they made Frangible ammo for .50...

Ben Avery's shooting range backs up to a mountain, and if you ricochet, a .50 could easily go over the mountain and land on I-17. That would be BAD.

Can you imagine the cost of frangible .50's, though? Standard ball is five bucks a shot.

...
$10 p/rnd?
gonk

Yeah, even if they could make them cheap enough demand alone is enough to at least double the price.

I know API goes for about $10/rnd, so probably.

...Jesus, can you imagine the impact force of a .50 frangible? The .50 is kind of ineffective because it penetrates the target, and THEN expands, but frangible...

Almost 0 transfer rate?
Would there be anything left to... eat?
Probably, more than likely it'll be tenderized perfectly.  

[Buki_Actual]

I've been thinking

he will probably only be able to ban sales. All guns already purchased would probably be equivalent to owning an AR after an Assault weapon ban. It's not like they can walk in and take things you bought...unless its the IRS...wait a ******** damnit...  

[OberFeldwebel]

SBBuckner

I've been thinking

he will probably only be able to ban sales. All guns already purchased would probably be equivalent to owning an AR after an Assault weapon ban. It's not like they can walk in and take things you bought...unless its the IRS...wait a ******** damnit...

But wait, I don't think his ban will expire like the last one.
I think he wants this one to be permanent.