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 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:05 pm
Daemon_king No offense, but Fifty Cent.... some candy." God, what did we do to deserve this? Probably a few things.... Last generation or two did a really fethed-up job of raising their kids.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:39 pm
DarkElf27 Daemon_king No offense, but Fifty Cent.... some candy." God, what did we do to deserve this? Probably a few things.... Last generation or two did a really fethed-up job of raising their kids. And, that's why rap sucks. Country Music on the other hand, in my opinion, is one of the best and one of the only good genres out in the world. Each song tells a story and the singers actually sing, but I can't say about some of the new ones. I had it when you got idiots that scream or holler the high notes. No offense, but women singers today have a tendence of doing this, but I'm not saying all. For there are some that actually sing a song like Tammy Wynette, Loretta Lynn, Tanya Tucker, and some others. If you actually listen to the song you will know what the story is in the song. Like "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones, a great song, which tells of a man you said and meant that he will love this women, who left him for another, and when died he finally stopped loving her, and died happier than he was when he was alive. Another song is "I May Never get to Heaven" by Conway Twitty. A story of a man who said he may never get to heaven, but came offailly close by this woman's love, who was taken from her by someone. Both are beautiful song and I recommend you listen to them at least once.
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:42 pm
I felt like changing the poll. Oh, and read before voting, don't vote for your favorite genre of music (It's in your opinion what you think people should listen to).
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:58 pm
Personally, I like country. I will listen to almost any country song as long as it is good and it is not by country music posers. (Shania Twain, Carrie Underwood, and Martina McBride) I am very strong about this. Pop and country should have never intermingled like it did with those three. (Though Carrie was most likely pop to start off with, considering she came from American Idol.)
Now today's rap is something that I cannot stand. It is terrible and vibrates majority of the house's in my neighborhood. Today's rap, mind you, is another reason why a good some of children have no good taste in books. They follow what these rappers do and use a swear word every other word they say!
I do like some rock/metal. I just listen to whatever is recommended to me. ^_^ As of now, I like "I'm Melting in Your Eyes" by The Used. (Such a romantic song)
My last favourite type of music is Japanese Pop. Even though I cannot understand anything that they are saying, I love the rythym. It just makes me want to dance and sing! ^_^
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[-T h e a t r e.G e e k-]
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:11 pm
got it Daemon_king. I voted for jazz/blues, not because it's my personal favorite, but because it's the basis for basically all twentieth-century music that follows, from the obvious ones like Elvis Presley to the way less obvious ones. Those dirty old blues songs were the original punk-rock!
Saying that I like music across all genres sounds like a cop-out. Except that most of my favorite musicians simply can't be placed within a genre. I defy you to tell me what kind of music the Magnetic Fields play, and consider Tom Waits, David Bowie, Nick Cave, and Leonard Cohen radically cross-genre as well. One Ring Zero basically created a genre (klezmer-funk-rock-jazz-dirge-etc.). Then there are my badassladies: Nina Hagen, Joan Jett, Ute Lemper, Concrete Blond, Sinead O'Conner, PJ Harvey, and the female-fronted ostensibly punk bands like X, the Rezillos, the (even-less-punk) Banshees and Creatures (both Siouxsie's, what can I say?), and the Pixies. Then come my wussy boys: Elvis Costello, Rufus Wainwright, Nick Drake, and the not-so wussy boys of NIN, Sloppy Seconds, Dead Kennedys, and NOFX.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:45 pm
i_heart_ron got it Daemon_king. I voted for jazz/blues, not because it's my personal favorite, but because it's the basis for basically all twentieth-century music that follows, from the obvious ones like Elvis Presley to the way less obvious ones. Those dirty old blues songs were the original punk-rock! Saying that I like music across all genres sounds like a cop-out. Except that most of my favorite musicians simply can't be placed within a genre. I defy you to tell me what kind of music the Magnetic Fields play, and consider Tom Waits, David Bowie, Nick Cave, and Leonard Cohen radically cross-genre as well. One Ring Zero basically created a genre (klezmer-funk-rock-jazz-dirge-etc.). Then there are my badassladies: Nina Hagen, Joan Jett, Ute Lemper, Concrete Blond, Sinead O'Conner, PJ Harvey, and the female-fronted ostensibly punk bands like X, the Rezillos, the (even-less-punk) Banshees and Creatures (both Siouxsie's, what can I say?), and the Pixies. Then come my wussy boys: Elvis Costello, Rufus Wainwright, Nick Drake, and the not-so wussy boys of NIN, Sloppy Seconds, Dead Kennedys, and NOFX. I don't recall Elvis ever played Blues/Jazz music. Though I do know that he played Rock and Country.
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:39 pm
Rock is Jazz focused through Country.
Where do you think the rhythm, the beat, come from? Elvis was a great blues guitarist. He grew up immersed in gospel music and R&B. "Hound Dog" was written by blues legend Big Mamma Thornton.
Of course, he soaked up the black musical influences, and then said the only things that blacks were good for was shining his shoes and buying his music, but that's neither here nor there nor relevent.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:52 am
i_heart_ron Rock is Jazz focused through Country. Where do you think the rhythm, the beat, come from? Elvis was a great blues guitarist. He grew up immersed in gospel music and R&B. "Hound Dog" was written by blues legend Big Mamma Thornton. Of course, he soaked up the black musical influences, and then said the only things that blacks were good for was shining his shoes and buying his music, but that's neither here nor there nor relevent. Incorrect, does not compute. Rock is not Jazz focused through Country. I know this for a fact. Country, Rockabiliy, and Western music has a twang, and is a story told in song orginating from the Irish/Welsh. R&B, Jazz/Blues, and Rap orginated from Africans. Can't remember where Rock orginated, and it's not America.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:17 am
Daemon_king i_heart_ron Rock is Jazz focused through Country. Where do you think the rhythm, the beat, come from? Elvis was a great blues guitarist. He grew up immersed in gospel music and R&B. "Hound Dog" was written by blues legend Big Mamma Thornton. Of course, he soaked up the black musical influences, and then said the only things that blacks were good for was shining his shoes and buying his music, but that's neither here nor there nor relevent. Incorrect, does not compute. Rock is not Jazz focused through Country. I know this for a fact. Country, Rockabiliy, and Western music has a twang, and is a story told in song orginating from the Irish/Welsh. R&B, Jazz/Blues, and Rap orginated from Africans. Can't remember where Rock orginated, and it's not America. Exactly correct in that country is, indeed, derived from European, and specifically Scots-Hibernian folk ballads, but I'd love to hear a coherent argument to back up the statement that Rock isn't American, or is independent of influence from American musical forms. Even Brit-rock was a product of the introduction of Jazz and Blues to postwar Europe.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:48 am
i_heart_ron Daemon_king i_heart_ron Rock is Jazz focused through Country. Where do you think the rhythm, the beat, come from? Elvis was a great blues guitarist. He grew up immersed in gospel music and R&B. "Hound Dog" was written by blues legend Big Mamma Thornton. Of course, he soaked up the black musical influences, and then said the only things that blacks were good for was shining his shoes and buying his music, but that's neither here nor there nor relevent. Incorrect, does not compute. Rock is not Jazz focused through Country. I know this for a fact. Country, Rockabiliy, and Western music has a twang, and is a story told in song orginating from the Irish/Welsh. R&B, Jazz/Blues, and Rap orginated from Africans. Can't remember where Rock orginated, and it's not America. Exactly correct in that country is, indeed, derived from European, and specificallt Scots-Hibernian folk ballads, but I'd love to hear a coherent argument to back up the statement that Rock isn't American, or is independent of influence form American musical forms. Even Brit-rock was a product of the introduction of Jazz and Blues to postwar Europe. I just said that Jazz and Blues orginated in AFRICA, A-F-R-I-C-A. Not in Europe, not in America. Can you see the writing, look different sets of music come from different countrys and people. Country/Bluegrass/Folk, doesn't matter, they come from the Irish/Welsh. Rap/R&B/Blues/Jazz, they come from the Africans. Now, nationalities mix and so did the music, but they aren't a product of Blues or Jazz, by dates of orgin and popularity, Country started just alittle bit before Blues. Now, this discussion is over, I don't want to argue about this anymore. Okay.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:16 pm
whoa!
I wasn't arguing. I was having fun. Constructive. Discussion. Debate. This is actually something that I've studied in college, I wasn't being bratty; I love and thrive on this sort of intellectual back-and-forth. If you can't handle it, I'm sorry. I certainly never intended to come into a guild as a new member and immediately start making trouble, and I wasn't aware of doing so, or of having upset you based on your tone in earlier postings.
Game over then.
But you haven't won. Jazz and Blues and Gospel NEVER existed or could ever have evolved in an African context; they arose from coded messages passed between African slaves IN AMERICA.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:48 pm
i_heart_ron whoa! I wasn't arguing. I was having fun. Constructive. Discussion. Debate. This is actually something that I've studied in college, I wasn't being bratty; I love and thrive on this sort of intellectual back-and-forth. If you can't handle it, I'm sorry. I certainly never intended to come into a guild as a new member and immediately start making trouble, and I wasn't aware of doing so, or of having upset you based on your tone in earlier postings. Game over then. But you haven't won. Jazz and Blues and Gospel NEVER existed or could ever have evolved in an African context; they arose from coded messages passed between African slaves IN AMERICA.Oh, wow, you think you won. If you want a debate I'll give a debate. Remember this though it isn't over until I say it is. For, what you just made a hypocrite. African SLAVES, that means the music orginated from tradition, in Africa, you proved my point checkMATE!
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:27 pm
Daemon_king i_heart_ron whoa! I wasn't arguing. I was having fun. Constructive. Discussion. Debate. This is actually something that I've studied in college, I wasn't being bratty; I love and thrive on this sort of intellectual back-and-forth. If you can't handle it, I'm sorry. I certainly never intended to come into a guild as a new member and immediately start making trouble, and I wasn't aware of doing so, or of having upset you based on your tone in earlier postings. Game over then. But you haven't won. Jazz and Blues and Gospel NEVER existed or could ever have evolved in an African context; they arose from coded messages passed between African slaves IN AMERICA.Oh, wow, you think you won. If you want a debate I'll give a debate. Remember this though it isn't over until I say it is. For, what you just made a hypocrite. African SLAVES, that means the music orginated from tradition, in Africa, you proved my point checkMATE! are you really forcing me to do this? I never denied they evolved from African musical styles, or that they were developed by Africans. I said they were created by Africans in America. You can't really, seriously be arguing that they were developed in Africa? Quote: The blues is a vocal and instrumental form of music based on a pentatonic scale and typically on a characteristic twelve-bar chord progression. The form evolved in the United States from the spirituals of African slaves, along with their work songs, praise songs, field hollers, shouts, and chants. The use of blue notes and the prominence of call-and-response patterns in the music and lyrics are indicative of the blues' West African pedigree. The blues has been a major influence on later American and Western popular music, finding expression in ragtime, jazz, big band, rhythm and blues, rock and roll and country music, as well as conventional pop songs and even modern classical music. Quote: Jazz is a musical art form originally developed by African Americans from around the turn of the 20th century. It is characterized by blue notes, syncopation, swing, call and response, polyrhythms, and improvisation sometimes in jam sessions. As the first original art form to emerge from the United States of America, jazz has been described as "America's Classical Music". Quote: Rhythm and blues (or R&B) was coined as a musical marketing term introduced in the United States in the late 1940s by Jerry Wexler at Billboard magazine, used to designate upbeat popular music performed by African American artists that combined jazz and blues. Quote: Gospel music may refer either to the religious music that first came out of African-American churches in the 1930's or, more loosely, to both black gospel music and to the religious music composed and sung by white southern Christian artists. While the separation between the two styles was never absolute - both drew from the Methodist hymnal and artists in one tradition sometimes sang songs belonging to the other - the sharp division between black and white America, particularly black and white churches, kept the two apart. While those divisions have lessened slightly in the past fifty years, the two traditions are still distinct. We're not actually disagreeing at this point, except over ridiculous minutiae, and my original message was merely intended to let you know that I had read all the posts before voting in your poll, that I understood that you wanted to know what I want people to listen to, and that I want them to listen to old music to learn where today's music comes from. I'm big on music history and music education, which is the reason that I voted for Jazz and Blues in the poll.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:08 pm
I just found a new song that I now really love. 'Hotel California', by the Eagles.
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:46 pm
DarkElf27 I just found a new song that I now really love. 'Hotel California', by the Eagles. Welcome to the Hotel California. Lalalalalala. Great song by the Eagles, what other songs have you heard of the eagles.
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