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 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:10 am
hehe i changed it, and made a pic of it wink
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:16 pm
I don't think this will happen. There's a gigantic backlash against immigration and Islam while far-right parties gain strength. I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing, but there's quite a few Europeans angry about this trend and I think in the near future things are going to change. Chaotic times we live in.
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dark__sunshin Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:15 am
alsalamu Alaykum ~
yes i knw it..
and it is believed that this video was produced by the Catholic Church, and they were just scaring the Christians and the European rulers.. and they made a little fuzz so Muslims would stop living in Europe& you know evacuate Europe.. even if they were actually European .. it's really shameful, i mean Muslims aren't all Arabs or Asians.. they are from this World, they shouldn't be treated as if they were some kind of '' Aliens'' that has their own territory!! it's just not right.. ~ We Are All Humans Of Earth ~
Wasalam!
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:18 am
there are diffrences on humans okhti wink
catholik church rofl
maybe razz
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dark__sunshin Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:22 am
The_Pathan there are diffrences on humans okhti wink catholik church rofl maybe razz
we are ALL THE SAME!! why they are making their selves just way better than us!!
sadly, i guess they are just working harder than we are!
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:23 am
The_Pathan there are diffrences on humans okhti wink catholik church rofl maybe razz
Salaam wa aleikom Aghi,
We do not decide whether He or She is different who are we to decided that,
You can see me difference from you but I can see you difference from me,
So .. that wouldnt work out would it?... and also If you said I was different, you would be judging me, on that Im better , worse, wierd, etc. than you.
and what would that make you?
The only One who can tell whom is different is Allah (swt)
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:27 am
They are not-muslim and we are muslims. that's the diffrence.
And please don't lie bro'
PEOPLE ARE DIFFRENT!
Some people got diffrent hair, some people are theifs, some people are kufars, some are gays.
people got diffrences.
We ain't all same. Islam dossen't say everyone is the same. islam just says we are equal as human beings. not that we got no certain diffrences.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:28 am
The_Pathan They are not-muslim and we are muslims. that's the diffrence. And please don't lie bro' PEOPLE ARE DIFFRENT! Some people got diffrent hair, some people are theifs, some people are kufars, some are gays. people got diffrences. We ain't all same. Islam dossen't say everyone is the same. islam just says we are equal as human beings. not that we got no certain diffrences.
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dark__sunshin Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:34 am
The_Pathan They are not-muslim and we are muslims. that's the diffrence. And please don't lie bro' PEOPLE ARE DIFFRENT! Some people got diffrent hair, some people are theifs, some people are kufars, some are gays. people got diffrences. We ain't all same. Islam dossen't say everyone is the same. islam just says we are equal as human beings. not that we got no certain diffrences. Excuse me Friend, But where can YOU QUOTE ME... Where I say PEOPLE ARE NOT DIFFERENT...
I SAID WE ARE NOT THE ONES TO JUDGE!...
Dont put words in my mouth,,, and again we are not the one to Judge whether someone is different or not... If someone is Gay.. and You are not Fine... You are not the one to tell him You are different because for him you are Different...
Allah (swt) Is The One Who Can Tell Who's Different Or Not!
NOT YOU! NOT ME! ... NO ONE!...
If You still dont get what Im saying here.. Then Im Afraid I cant help you.. Because I cant make myself clearer than this.
And Again... Next Time Please Read the Whole post.. Try to understand it.. and then make ur opinion on it. because now ur putting words in my mouth.
( Also. Dont call someone a Liar.. cause where did you see me lie?...just because its "According To You" not true doesnt mean Im a liar.. maybe you should do some research first.. )
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:43 am
Bro' please know things beffore saying soo clearly. if ur sure about it say it like that. if u think then tell u think. cause u get bad deeds from lying.
We humans got rights to judge.
If someone killed my sister, i got rights to deside if he should be forgiven or killed.
as an example.
Soo we do got rights to judge. we judge stuff in life.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:52 am
The_Pathan Bro' please know things beffore saying soo clearly. if ur sure about it say it like that. if u think then tell u think. cause u get bad deeds from lying. We humans got rights to judge.
If someone killed my sister, i got rights to deside if he should be forgiven or killed.as an example. Soo we do got rights to judge. we judge stuff in life.
And As for your Example...?
Wrong.
If Someone killed your Sister... He has got a serious Problem with Allah (swt) When he prays, and prays , and prays, All day long 24-h a day, Allah will be the one who Decides wether he will be forgiven..
Did you even read that sentence before after you wrote it?
If someone killed my sister, i got rights to deside if he should be forgiven or killed?
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I know you probably mean it right.. but you are trying to be a "Smart - .ss" on this moment.
If you have read the Koran, and got the meaning of it. You would know
That You HAVE NO RIGHT NO RIGHT AT ALL... To Judge Someone... NO RIGHT AT ALL.
You will never ever ... get the Right to Decided whether someone shall be forgiven or not?....
that sentence was seriously complete nonsense.
And you still haven't gave answer on my question where did you hear me say... people are not different?... nowhere so you ow me a Apology. for calling me a liar while the only thing I said is that Allah (swt) is the only one who decides whether one is different or not.
And also.. You said... we got the right to judge stuff in life....
"judge stuff" is when you choose if you will eat bread or cereal as breakfast. not whether you will forgive someone or not.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:56 am
Bro' can u please give me a quote from the qur'an? smile
I DO GOT RIGHTS TO DESIDE IF THE PERSON IS GONNA DIE OR LIVE. Got it?
If no, then i'll prove. if yes, then what's the matter?
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:00 pm
The_Pathan Bro' can u please give me a quote from the qur'an? smile I DO GOT RIGHTS TO DESIDE IF THE PERSON IS GONNA DIE OR LIVE. Got it? If no, then i'll prove. if yes, then what's the matter?
The only thing I said is YOU ARE NOT THE ONE TO JUDGE... ALLAH (swt) IS!
Thats It.. So STOP SAYING... That You CAN JUDGE!>>> >>> You're the one that said you can so why dont you give me the verse... and Ill go check it out for you and make it clear for you.. because I dont know if you read the koran...but Im sure you did not completely understand it. because what you said... was more than wrong.
And dont you think you ow me a apology?.... you do not have to ignore it...
you made a mistake.. and
called me a liar.. So.. least thing you could do is apologies
` The mather is... that you are calling me a liar.. while you dont have a slice idea of what you are talking about..you are just shouting out sentence for example " I can Judge who to forgive or not" while you definitely cant.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:22 pm
Well and Pathan since you have been a hardhead xd
Ive looked it up for you.
Quran 88:26: Then it will be for (only) Us to call them to account.
By using the Arabic word "Inna" - which means "We" (i.e., God) - to begin 88:26 is a clear indication that it is ONLY God who can judge humans. To better comprehend why it is that humans are not capable (or allowed) to pass judgment against their fellow man, I offer the following analogy: Consider, for a moment, a long, stretching river - let's call it "The River of Truth." People are swimming at various points along this river. Now, let’s assume that absolute truth lay at the very end of the river, say, point 100. Based on this, we would assume that the person swimming alongside point 95 is closer to the Truth - and therefore better - than the person swimming alongside point 5.
However, what if the fact was that the closer person had started out at 100, and had actually drifted away from the truth by 5, whereas the further person had actually started at 0 and was now 5 closer to the Truth? While it would be impossible for us to know this - it is not impossible for God, for He would certainly know this about both persons, He would know that the person on 5 was striving hard (that is, performing Jihad) for Truth's sake. Based on this all too plausible scenario, it becomes obvious that in the eyes of God, the man on point 5 of the River of Truth is better than the person on point 95. It is for this very reason that the Quran has unequivocally stated that ONLY God can pass judgment on humans:
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22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean certain ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.
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Prophet Mohamed (saws) in his Holy Quran :
Quran 46:9 Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans.
Well I hope I have made things clear for you now.. and as you can see Im not a liar.. so you can take your words back..
And remember next to don't be such an hard head. and do research before you tell someone he's wrong while you're not even sure its true.
and never follow your own words on this sort of topics.. we are talking about Islam.. no need to be a hard head in here.
Accept the truth.. and be glad you found it.
Wa aleikom Salaam.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:43 pm
on post 2 i just read the verses cause i gotta sleep.
Post 1...
Year sorry i called u a liar bro' wink
forgive me for that.
I ben reading about the death penalthy thingy, but not reading the quran in english yet. i read it in arabic, and i don't understand it all.
It's told that the family of the death one, got rights to judge if the killer, should die too, or if he should live.
Agreed? smile If not, then i'm ready to try and find proves from qur'an.
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