People say hijab is not right in islam?

[Bellenoireprincesse]

I really think its accoriding to ones culture and background whether you wear hijab or not. The Qu'rahn says to dress modestly, but in different cultures and societies differnet amounts of clothing can be considered *modest*. Like in America, for example, its exceptable for people to walk around half naked. But in other countries you are to cover yourself head to toe. I personally believe as long as you aren't showing off too much skin such as chest, midriff, arms, legs, you are good. Wearing hijab is up to you.  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

Asalam Alaykum biggrin

I ben hearing from alot of people in Denmark who studied Islam, that the qur'an dossen't tell about wearing a hijab.

They say it tells women not to show, but not to wear a hijab. So i was wondering what is the right thing. Cause i know there is a reason why people are wearing hijab.

WRONG The quran says to wear a hijab. for reasons such as no one will harrass them and bother them and quote "annoy them". It was to protect the weman. However the Quran does NOT say they HAVE to wear the hijab. It states you must not force the weman to wear it. But you can force them not to show so much skin (if you know what I mean). Further more the quran does not say about covering the entire face like a nehkaab. Only the prophet (pbuh) wives had to, so everyone can recognize them as his wives and respect them (but that a agrumental type thing). The guys that studied this must have gotten there facts a bit screwd up  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

Luna Lusia

Abu Dawood, Book 32, Number 4090:

Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu'minin:

When the verse "That they should cast their outer garments over their persons" was revealed, THE WOMEN OF ANSAR CAME OUT AS IF THEY HAD CROWS OVER THEIR HEADS BY WEARING OUTER GARMENTS.

Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 282:

Narrated Safiya bint Shaiba:

'Aisha used to say: "When (the Verse): "They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms," was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and COVERED THEIR FACES WITH THE CUT PIECES
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I hope this can help u

Ur giving me hadits sweatdrop What would i tell to a shi'a muslim who don't belive in hadits?

Can u give me quotes from the qur'an smile

Cause people say "it's the imaams who tells them to wear it, not god."

Shia muslims do believe in hadiths!  

[The_Pathan]

Not all shiahs wink

Though the reason why whole face covered is:

A woman HAS TO BE covered everywhere besides face. And some people say the mouth is also private. But i think u must wear it because of the eyes....

Actually it's haram for boys to look at girls eyes. Also, they woulden't know who is who, so they woulden't annoy the girls.  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

Not all shiahs wink

Though the reason why whole face covered is:

A woman HAS TO BE covered everywhere besides face. And some people say the mouth is also private. But i think u must wear it because of the eyes....

Actually it's haram for boys to look at girls eyes. Also, they woulden't know who is who, so they woulden't annoy the girls.

well i disagree with that but its fine 1 verse has a thousands meanings  

[rouinx]

XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX

The_Pathan

Not all shiahs wink

Though the reason why whole face covered is:

A woman HAS TO BE covered everywhere besides face. And some people say the mouth is also private. But i think u must wear it because of the eyes....

Actually it's haram for boys to look at girls eyes. Also, they woulden't know who is who, so they woulden't annoy the girls.

well i disagree with that but its fine 1 verse has a thousands meanings

besides how the living hell r u supposed to get married if u cant see crap?!?!??? only some gaint drape lol anyway I was taught different  

[The_Pathan]

If you diden't know how other women looked, u woulden't cry about ur wife is not beautiful? ninja ^^  

[The_Pathan]

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.  

[xXx_White_Crow_xXx]

The_Pathan

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.

tats the safest things to do my fren...  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.

That is THE most dumbest response ever dont you guys use freakin logic??? Allah this, Allah that!! give a real response!. omg First of all theres nothing wrong with dating if you are just trying to know the person. Im sure people dont want to have any marriage with a girl they cant even see it makes NO sense. I for one understand BASIC covering for weman AFTER there married but WTH??? Second of all pathan. who the living hell are you to judge anyone??? "That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims." not ALL kafirs do what sooo many muslims claim. yes many do have prostitutes, pornos, etc.. but guess what! YOU MUSLIMS DO IT ASWELL and dont even think for a second that "O its hardly unheard of in the muslim world" that will be a load of crap! u have no right calling anyone a whore, you should get out more and see what muslims are doing. even in ur own turf in EUROPE!!!. Further more i never said you had to "date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married." although dating is ok or it should be anyway. but i never said have sex with the girl. the point to have a wife is to freakin look at her before marrigae to see if she is pretty and attractive to you from the inside and depending on the person the outside aswell its says so in the hadith so dont give me that crap. Weman dont need to rlly cover there faces besdies that whole rape thing is not from being attractive its for male control! so theres no point you cant force them to wear something they dont want to! if they choose to thats a different story. but yet again if she plans on finding a spouse in this day and age im pretty sure she gotta loose the thing.  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

If you diden't know how other women looked, u woulden't cry about ur wife is not beautiful? ninja ^^

hey if thats what they want and the guy is ok thats cool. but god made weman... well people in general to look at you cant tell me a man cant look at other weman.... in there private areas fine yea. Also the spouse wont cry about it if he chooses the weman to marry besdies you can four wives so ...ya

anyway im talking about FORCING the weman to wear it!! if they dont want to they dont have to.  

[rouinx]

The_Pathan

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.

btw if god says ALL have to get married and its according to the sunnah how come soooo many people dont get married until they die?? and im gonna be one of those people. so your telling me god chooses who u r gonna get married to.....??? well whats that about then??  

[The_Pathan]

I gotta go, i'm tired ben flying all day 10pm, so maybe i can write tommorow.

I diden't say i was gonna marry sum1 i can't see. Just telling u to marry 1 wink lol

Well, the qur'an tells girls to be covered. They must not show their beauty infront of other males.

I diden't say all kafirs do that, but i was just giving u 1 example ^_^ Cuz we all know most of them don't get married without intercourse.
Kafirs usually don't get married without kissing, or anything alike.

And yes i know muslims also do that stuff. But that's another topic, cuz not all muslims are good muslims wink How many of the muslims pray 5 times a day in mosque? In my country it's less than 5%

U can "date", but in my language we call it "talk". Without looking at the eyes.

U can't see a girl inside by just looking at her, u can look into her by human abillities. U can just talk to her, that's enugh.

When did i talk about rape? Well, rape dossen't have much to do with hijab. In the old days it did. But today, the kafirs go to jail 3 days or never. And in muslim countries they just get killed.

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anyway im talking about FORCING the weman to wear it!! if they dont want to they dont have to.

yeah, u must not force a kafir to be muslim, if they don't wanto they don't have to.


Well, 4 wifes... Go on... ^^

Yes all humans must get married. But i haven't read about it, just that everyone must get married, and your partner is already chosen =) U can ask sum1 else ^_^  

[Bharatanatyam dancer1]

The_Pathan

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.

whoa whoa whoa... lets rewind the tape a bit sir...
now my mom and some of my cousins are christians and they are NOT whores.. they actually follow the religion.. although I don't really understand certain parts of the religion they still follow the act of modesty.

and what about a Jewish woman.. would you touch them?  

[Bharatanatyam dancer1]

XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX

The_Pathan

Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^

You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married.

That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims.

I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores.

That is THE most dumbest response ever dont you guys use freakin logic??? Allah this, Allah that!! give a real response!. omg First of all theres nothing wrong with dating if you are just trying to know the person. Im sure people dont want to have any marriage with a girl they cant even see it makes NO sense. I for one understand BASIC covering for weman AFTER there married but WTH??? Second of all pathan. who the living hell are you to judge anyone??? "That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims." not ALL kafirs do what sooo many muslims claim. yes many do have prostitutes, pornos, etc.. but guess what! YOU MUSLIMS DO IT ASWELL and dont even think for a second that "O its hardly unheard of in the muslim world" that will be a load of crap! u have no right calling anyone a whore, you should get out more and see what muslims are doing. even in ur own turf in EUROPE!!!. Further more i never said you had to "date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married." although dating is ok or it should be anyway. but i never said have sex with the girl. the point to have a wife is to freakin look at her before marrigae to see if she is pretty and attractive to you from the inside and depending on the person the outside aswell its says so in the hadith so dont give me that crap. Weman dont need to rlly cover there faces besdies that whole rape thing is not from being attractive its for male control! so theres no point you cant force them to wear something they dont want to! if they choose to thats a different story. but yet again if she plans on finding a spouse in this day and age im pretty sure she gotta loose the thing.

ok, firstly I would like to address the issue of covering. Firstly, the face is not necessary, in fact I think that the niqab is a very brilliant thing. In fact, since it is hijab for a woman to cover her awrah (private parts), some
people consider the mouth to be private and so the mouth is covered. You said so yourself that you don't agree with the covering of a muslim women right, because of the fact that you can not see anything. I'm just going to tell you that, that reason right there is the reason that most of us do cover. A woman should be acknowledge for her personality and her intelligence
not her appearance. And what do you mean about Allah this and Allah that? We are happy to be muslims.. and we are happy to serve Allah, he is our creator why shouldn't we praise him? What you are talking about is really nonsense