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Super Mega Nope
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:26 pm


This is a hard topic for me to actually pick a side on, to may variables.
I wish it was as easy as life and death, but there is too much involved in it.

sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:41 pm


Yes education is very important. But farming is essential too to give it a good block to build upon. Liek I said, it's just like we were before we got faring sorted and coule muster disposable incomes.

Moonlight_HuangHou

Back on subject:
Suicide is illigal in UK?


I belive so, but it's one of those laws that no-one enforces. I know it certainly used to be. Lemme look it up and check.. crying

*google google*
Aha! ok I was worng lol
It WAS illegal until 1961

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It was until the 1961 Suicide Act which legalised it and introduced laws which dealt with assistance of suicide. Prior to 1961 suicide was illegal in the UK and was punishable by prison and fines (but not death!)



Reseraching more random and archaic British laws i found these funny ones.

Most are archaic and not enforced XD


1. It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament

2. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside-down [as is defacing anything that bears his/her likeness - eg burning money, bending coins or tearing apart stamps]

3. In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store

4. Mince pies cannot be eaten on Christmas Day [lol]

5. In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter

6. A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman’s helmet [this is the only one I knew outta these]

7. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the king, and the tail of the queen

8. It is illegal to avoid telling the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing

9. It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armour (

10. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow


Also one I remember is that it's illegal to harm or kill white swans, because they're the national animal of the Queen.


oops, more I 'researched' :p

The Library Offences Act of 1898 makes it illegal to gamble in a library. The law also prohibits abusive or obscene language. So I guess that would include online gambling on the computers too

The Licensing Act of 1872 explains that operating a cow, horse or steam engine while intoxicated carries either a prison sentence or a fine. So no riding a cow while you’re drunk!

It is an executable offense to allow your pet to mate with a pet of the royal house without permission. So if you’re ever there with your dog, make sure they behave themselves!

dragontamer363
Crew


Zizzykitty
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:01 am


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Admittedly problems like Africa are HUGE, but they stem down to corrupt governments, inadequate farming and lac of industrialisation - problems that no amount fo charity money can solve"
True true! They also need more schools I believe... The whole problem with AID's (?) is just terrible. I saw this video in school how women have it really though if they have that and even though some get it from men they are the ones who are disgusted and looked down upon. It's terrible. And how people believe it's contagious by just being near a person with it. So they're kind of shun out of society.


CONVERSATION SHIFT TO AIDS

I've also read that because Africa is lacking in the education department, it is believed in some parts that having sex with a virgin will cure AIDS.
(I suppose because she is pure or something like that)
So there's a virgin sex ring of sorts where men pay to have sex with virgins to cure their AIDS.
While infact they are just infecting more women and making more AIDS
I think the biggest thing to helping the "AIDS crisis" would be to educate people.
Make condoms more readily available.
Teach them virgins do not cure AIDS
Things like that.

DT:
Those are some random laws. xD
I should try to research some of the weird ones we've got here.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:20 am


*fliaols erratically at monkeyfen's sig*

EEE TRIGUN!

-ahem-


yes....

dragontamer363
Crew


Moonlight_HuangHou
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:40 am


lol I loved that. Thanks for sharing those laws DT!!!
I wonder if the US has anything like that....

Shifting conversation to aids:
A..ring? Virgin's curing it? Wow...that's terrible actually.
Also, the reason they can't get the education and condoms is b/c of their president I believe. (One of them on one part of africa or something) He refuses to believe that Aid's is spreadable or acknowledge it or something.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:14 am


iGoldman
In cases of rape, or endangering the mother or child's life, I absolutely think abortion should be an option.

I don't condone irresponsible behavior however. If you get your girlfriend pregnant, that's your responsibility. If you couldn't handle a child, you shouldn't have been risking it.


I agree with most of this, however I'm not sure if you'll agree with this:
What if your girlfriend was about 13 and you about 14?
First of all, you shouldn't be doing that anyway when you're that young, but I think if any female is consensual and does get pregnant, even at such a young age... as long as she's not at a great risk of losing her or her child's life, she should have the baby. I'm more pro-life, ok?
I don't think mental illness should be an issue. Down Syndrome, Autism... whatever, a baby's mental health should not be put into consideration. I have a wonderful younger cousin who's autistic, and he's really smart. He loves guitar hero so much that he knows every song name, who sung it, and the year it came out, all in the order that it's in for the games... I'm not trying to be mean, but children can live with autism...

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dragontamer363
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:26 am


i think with disabilities it depends on the kind. For downs and autism i think i'd be ok with it, but if the kid can't move or function i think is the main issue.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 am


dragontamer363
i think with disabilities it depends on the kind. For downs and autism i think i'd be ok with it, but if the kid can't move or function i think is the main issue.


...Well, I mean there is such a thing as wheelchairs and stuff. I just really think that as long as it's going to be a safe birth, and there are ways to help the child, a woman should keep the baby...

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dragontamer363
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:18 am


i suppose it's to do with mental faculties.

then again it's here that the whle soul belief system comes in. Mainly whether you're disadvantaging the kid by stopping its existaence befor eit begins.
for example if you belive in a soul as unique, intelligent and one-of-a-kind regardless, then you're killing it. BUT if you belive in heaven, then it's having a happy life, right? (or is an unchristened child due for heaven or hell?)- you see, beliefs.
Whereas if you belive in reincarnation, in a way you're kind of doing the kid a favour, since it's soul will just pass on into another, possibly more helathy, body - and you've doen this before it becoems self aware, so no harm no foul.
But coversely, a life form is a life from. Whether the kid had the mental faculties of a sea-slug shoudlnt' matter. living is living and it enjoys itself in whatever way. BUT if it's in pain its entire life is this cruel? is the burden on the parents cruel?
Or if you have a certain belief system in karma, perhaps you think the child must to be born and suffer whatever it's given to, because this is karmic retribution for a past life's evils and will be cleaning, allowing teh kid to have a happier next life.


you see? it's so bloody up for discussion in all areas this is why i belive the only decision to be made has to be with teh mother and her beliefs.

in the end, the baby doesn't know any better. The one thing that isn't suffering is the aborted baby - cos it's dead.
(unless you belive it's going to hell of course. in that case, sucks to be the foetus i guess. but coversely, even in hell the baby grows up knowing anything else, so it doesn't even have a perception of what's normal.)


ooh, as insensitive as that sounds, that's a frikkin' great idea for a story. That 'true' new generation demons are unbaptised babies and children who grew up in hell knowing nothing else, and so turned into evil monsters because that's the norm.
*scribble scribble*
That makes so much sense and fills the gap of why even dead adult huamsnw oudl turn into demons - sicne no one loses ALL humanity. But the babies had no knowledge humanity to begin with so were perfect tools to be raised and grafted into servants.
*brainstorm*

-ahem-
sorry.

though i'm sure if i said that to some fundamentalist groups they'd take it up. That's make for interesting rpotest signs: 'don't abort, it supplies hell with demons'
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:04 pm


I'm pro-choice.

Hell.
I have a friend that got raped and had to get an abortion shortly thereafter, in my opinion making her carry and have that baby would have been just downright cruel.

I dont aprove of abortion when it's used as some late protection, like "oh hell I forgot the pill"
Since honestly. That's your own damn fault, and abortion no matter how much I aprove of it is in fact a serious matter where you are basicly destroying a new life so it should not be used for something as petty as a late birth control.

klikkhaus


dragontamer363
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:22 pm


klikkhaus
I'm pro-choice.

Hell.
I have a friend that got raped and had to get an abortion shortly thereafter, in my opinion making her carry and have that baby would have been just downright cruel.

I dont aprove of abortion when it's used as some late protection, like "oh hell I forgot the pill"
Since honestly. That's your own damn fault, and abortion no matter how much I aprove of it is in fact a serious matter where you are basicly destroying a new life so it should not be used for something as petty as a late birth control.


i agree - it's where it's not used with responsibility and gravity where there's a problem.
that's what teh morning after pill's for anyways
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