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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:26 am


Voldemort point two
tassan


Only when those non-believers fights us first!

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eh, any words?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:32 am


Voldemort point two

tassan
Its so simple logic!

... rofl


again, i think you did not read my long post,

the simple logic is, you have gone to a person who is a christian specialist to look what islam is, how you can expect such a person to tell you what it is correctly?

EDIT: its like you have gone to ask a mathmetician that what is wrong with Physics.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:32 pm


No, because if you ask a Muslim what's wrong with Islam, they will be so indoctrinated that they can't find anything wrong. It's like going back through your own work and checking for mistakes; you're proud of it and can't think objectively.

Your analogy fails. Maths and Physics are similar. And anyone could tell you what's wrong with Physics: Quantum Physics is a bunch of unproven, borderline-religious statements that break the rules of regular Physics.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:36 pm


Voldemort point two
No, because if you ask a Muslim what's wrong with Islam, they will be so indoctrinated that they can't find anything wrong. It's like going back through your own work and checking for mistakes; you're proud of it and can't think objectively.

Your analogy fails. Maths and Physics are similar. And anyone could tell you what's wrong with Physics: Quantum Physics is a bunch of unproven, borderline-religious statements that break the rules of regular Physics.


stop beating about bush.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:39 pm


No. I just refuted you. If you're going to refute me, then fine. If you're going to tell me to stop beating about the bush, then don't even bother posting.

Heck, it's not like anyone on here has ever read anything I've ever posted about Islam being wrong, though. You just go into brainwashed mode and skim over it, or convince yourself that I don't know what I'm talking about.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:43 pm


Voldemort point two
No. I just refuted you. If you're going to refute me, then fine. If you're going to tell me to stop beating about the bush, then don't even bother posting.

Heck, it's not like anyone on here has ever read anything I've ever posted about Islam being wrong, though. You just go into brainwashed mode and skim over it, or convince yourself that I don't know what I'm talking about.

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well then why you are here in this guild? insult every one?

sorry but i would like to tell you that isulting others is against the rules of this guild and you might get banned.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:46 pm


I'm here to debate you. Something you're not doing.

If you're not going to reply to my post, don't bother replying at all.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:48 pm


eh, i have replied to your post a long ago if you can see.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:51 pm


You told me to stop beating about the bush. That's not a reply, that's a knee-jerk reaction.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:15 pm


where did my post go? :S

any ways i asked you to read my 6th post on first page.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:47 pm


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No, because if you ask a Muslim what's wrong with Islam, they will be so indoctrinated that they can't find anything wrong. It's like going back through your own work and checking for mistakes; you're proud of it and can't think objectively.


I find this funny, because the same applies to you. You are so indoctrinated in your own religious beliefs that not only can you not see anything wrong, you come into chat groups for people of other religions to challenge them not to question it. Religious argument can be compared to, in terms that you can understand, the Tower of Babel. You know how, in christianity, god divided the world into different languages etc; so that they would not create this tower meant to glorify the capabilities of man and be capable of placing themselves in the heavens (which only Allah/God can do for you). Well suppose, just for a minute, that the same rule applies to religion. The major differences in religion lay in the fact that different people of different cultures practice different religions... and because no two languages share the exact same vocabulay set (linguistically) then is it not entirely possible that all religions share a common origin and that simple semantics are directly responsible (aside from culture) for the more vast difference in any religious practice?

And since Christianity supports this possibility, as I presented above, doesnt it stand that you do not have a platform to 'debate' anyone's religious beliefs due to the fact that they all share a common origin... which is God (allah), but were merely transferred to the people by different persons (Christianity-Jesus v. Islam-Muhammad(pbuh)). Or do you deny that if, for example, I say the sky is blue and you say its cerrulean... we both speak the truth.

Either way, and this is the thing that makes me prefer islam to christianity...

By coming here to contest the belief system of the people in this group and trying to inject Christianity into the brains of its members, you reveal your lack of faith in your own religious background. And the request (of the bible) that Christians 'spread the word' of God suggests that the religion is too weak to carry itself. I believe islam has it right in its notion that God doesnt need anyone to go around proving to people that God exists. You either believe, or you dont. And if you believe, you act accordingly and do not sin so as not to kick dirt into the face of your creator. And if you do sin, you pray for forgiveness because you value the honor of your God that much.

And you do not babble (babel) endlessly to convince anyone that God is who God is. You show the world your faith. IF someone challenges you, you do not need to reply because your faith is the reply. If you act like God is all powerful in your life, they will know it. And if someone uses force against your religion... it is a natural response that you defend it, because it is an attack against God himself, not because you are seeking favor from God (because God owes you nothing)but because you believe in the honor of God and like your children you hate to see anyone attacking something/one you love.

In Christianity, you selfishly probe and p***k and try to turkey baste your opinions into people. You prey on them when they are in a weak situation(and call it saving them) JUST because you want them to believe what YOU believe. Then you try and mask that act with the misinterpretted word of God. Thereby manipulating the word of God for your own purpose... and taking God's name in vain (a violation of 1 of the 10 commandments).

In Islam, we keep to ourselves. When fought, we fight back, but we lead by example. THAT is why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and the leading religion in active practice. Not because we do what you do and launch attacks, but because we bathe in our faith and prepare our shield of defense.

Perhaps if you had more confidence in God's ability, you would not need to question us to further your faith.

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Your analogy fails. Maths and Physics are similar. And anyone could tell you what's wrong with Physics: Quantum Physics is a bunch of unproven, borderline-religious statements that break the rules of regular Physics.

And his analogy does not fail because Math and Physics are as Similar as Islam and Christianity. And anyone could tell you whats wrong with Christianity: Connotative Christianity is a bunch of unproven, borderline-political statements that break the rules of regular Christianity.

But that holds true for all religions. Humans are imperfect so there is no way they can properly capture the word of God in the perfect terms to explain them to another imperfect person without some form of misinterpretation. Leave Gods work to Gods will... Allah(God) created the world without your help... and only Allah(God) can moderate it.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:33 pm


and as a reply to your initial question.

Men of ALL religions have married younger women, and YOUR own priests and preachers engage in relations with teen boys... so.. what are you getting at?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:02 pm


I havent been on this guild long but I have NEVER SEEN ANYONE AS INSULTING AS YOU!!!! honestly u want to convey ur opinions u have a right to but it a dammed respectful and polite way!!!
muslims dont insult Christianity even though u have so many flaws since the bible has been altered so many times!!!
u dont like Islam fine no one asked u to convert but there is a way to debate using manners what are 12 years old?
and to reply to one little thing Islam PUNISHES RAPE MORE THAN ANYTHING!!!!!!
AND ***** LIKE RAPISTS AS EXUTED!!! WETHER WITH A GIRL OR BOY DEATH IS THE PENALTY NO DISCUSSION ONCE THERE PROVEN GUILTY THERE DEAD!!!
IM TYPING IN CAPS SO MABY I CAN GET THE ATTENTION OF THE CHILD YOU ARE!!
WHEN THEY SAY "WALDANON" THEY MEAN CHILDREN STUPID!! ISLAM LOVES CHILDREN AND THE MORE U HAVE THE MORE UR BLESSED AND HAVE MORE HAPPINESS THATS WHAT THEY MEAN!!!
so many non muslims and even muslims think they know islam, islam has no holes in its plan its logical and has an answer to everything u could ever ask even the meaning of life its only a matter of believing or not.
IM FROM the country were islam started I have been learning Islam since first grade and even before, I grew believing some thing and questioning others, when I have a doubt about islam I research its and find that every thing not logical is traced back to traditions that got mixed up with Islam and now I know almost everything u could possibly ask!!!
I will properly explain every point in the article u posted but it will take me a while cuz I want to find every bit of info I could think of to prove to that ur conceptions about Islam are misunderstandings.

but till then I want to draw ur attention to a few things:

1-arabic is the second most complicated language in the world one word can have more than 15 meanings depending the time period and the content of the phrase and Quran was started over 1400years ago the change in the language from that time is huge that u cant imagine honestly!!

2-Islam is not completed with only the Quran!!! the Quran alone does not explain islam when u combine Quran and the teaching of the prophet Muhammad thats when u get islam the teachings are so Important because they EXPLAIN the Quran

3-I will try to post my reply to the first link as soon as possible by tomorrow Inshallah, till then u can ask me ANYTHING about islam and I PROVE to u that what ever evil u believe is in our religion is a misunderstanding no matter how big, small or political!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:22 pm


Fish of Steel
I havent been on this guild long but I have NEVER SEEN ANYONE AS INSULTING AS YOU!!!! honestly u want to convey ur opinions u have a right to but it a dammed respectful and polite way!!!
muslims dont insult Christianity even though u have so many flaws since the bible has been altered so many times!!!
u dont like Islam fine no one asked u to convert but there is a way to debate using manners what are 12 years old?
and to reply to one little thing Islam PUNISHES RAPE MORE THAN ANYTHING!!!!!!
AND ***** LIKE RAPISTS AS EXUTED!!! WETHER WITH A GIRL OR BOY DEATH IS THE PENALTY NO DISCUSSION ONCE THERE PROVEN GUILTY THERE DEAD!!!
IM TYPING IN CAPS SO MABY I CAN GET THE ATTENTION OF THE CHILD YOU ARE!!
WHEN THEY SAY "WALDANON" THEY MEAN CHILDREN STUPID!! ISLAM LOVES CHILDREN AND THE MORE U HAVE THE MORE UR BLESSED AND HAVE MORE HAPPINESS THATS WHAT THEY MEAN!!!
so many non muslims and even muslims think they know islam, islam has no holes in its plan its logical and has an answer to everything u could ever ask even the meaning of life its only a matter of believing or not.
IM FROM the country were islam started I have been learning Islam since first grade and even before, I grew believing some thing and questioning others, when I have a doubt about islam I research its and find that every thing not logical is traced back to traditions that got mixed up with Islam and now I know almost everything u could possibly ask!!!
I will properly explain every point in the article u posted but it will take me a while cuz I want to find every bit of info I could think of to prove to that ur conceptions about Islam are misunderstandings.

but till then I want to draw ur attention to a few things:

1-arabic is the second most complicated language in the world one word can have more than 15 meanings depending the time period and the content of the phrase and Quran was started over 1400years ago the change in the language from that time is huge that u cant imagine honestly!!

2-Islam is not completed with only the Quran!!! the Quran alone does not explain islam when u combine Quran and the teaching of the prophet Muhammad thats when u get islam the teachings are so Important because they EXPLAIN the Quran

3-I will try to post my reply to the first link as soon as possible by tomorrow Inshallah, till then u can ask me ANYTHING about islam and I PROVE to u that what ever evil u believe is in our religion is a misunderstanding no matter how big, small or political!!!


this..
I was completely shocked when I found out that dhristians used to believe in reincarnations like hindus ....

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:32 am


I like the idea of reincarnation I wish it was real it seems so interesting biggrin
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