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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:31 am
xXx_Dream_Chaser_215_xXx Voldemort point two xXx_Dream_Chaser_215_xXx Zina (fornication) has become a common place occurrence within the Muslim Youth community, So you mean going out with someone is the same as having sex with them? Not so; I've had two girlfriends and one sort-of boyfriend, and I'm still a virgin. Now for your incredibly stupid points. omg really thanks biggrin its people like yuh who make my day better They are gf's not whores, soo.... But it's still haram.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:33 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:41 am
hmm but boys and girls can be friends cant they ?
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:32 am
"there are those who dream and wish; there are those who dream and WORK... "
i like this topic.
regarding this, in our place, teenagers here are really influenced with the western culture. most teens have boyfriend or girlfriend. me have no , of course, i know that it is not allowed in Islam.
because philippines has only 5% muslims, so most muslims have been influenced with the other culture. cry
 -keisha rayana hanaquil23
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-keisha rayana hanaquil23 Crew
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:29 pm
I feel like I should say beforehand that I'm not Muslim. I'm American, raised Jewish, and became something of a Deist/Atheistic-Spiritualist over time. In any case, Islam really interests me, as does this topic. I find that most religions, when you get to the more "radical" end, will tend to be more conservative in their social views. The whole dating issue is no exception.
But of course, living in America (Massachusetts-- for those outside the US, it's among the most liberal-independent states in the country) I see much more liberal attitudes to most social issues. I myself fall among the social liberal crowd-- I'm pro-gay (in fact, bisexual), pro-choice, anti-stupid-wars, pro-peace, and of course I'd like everyone to just get along and be able to put their religions and cultures aside to just love and respect everyone else as human beings.
I have to say that some of the points in the article you posted (I know the OP didn't write it) show that the author is rather ignorant of "western culture." Dating and having sex are, as it is now, fairly unrelated topics here. There are people who have sex with anything with a hole. Then there are people who date people to get to know them as people before deciding whether or not to eventually marry. People who date may decide to have sex with their partners, or they may not. It all depends on the individual. To make a blanket statement about all westerners as basically being shameless whores who'll screw anything with an orifice halfway makes me want to punch someone in the face, and halfway makes me want to laugh until I die. XD
I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert on Islam. In fact, I'm quite the opposite. But I have many Muslim friends in real life who absolutely do not share that view on dating. On of my Muslim friends is currently dating a Catholic, and his mom is hilariously liberal. The entire family still takes their Islam very seriously, but unfortunately faced some prejudice for their faith after 9/11 and stopped wearing traditional Muslim garb in public. But they still take their beliefs very seriously. Of course not all people of any faith will believe the exact same way-- Hell, I've even seen varying degrees of atheism, believe it or not-- though I guess it just depends on where you're from.
Anyway, there's my (rather useless) two cents. xD Enjoy.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:29 pm
@Scraps: The reason dating is not allowed is because if you date someone, nothing you do with that person is final because you do not have something binding you together. To date is to pick & choose...in Islam, we do not date because that relationship isn't permanent. That doesn't mean you cannot get to know the one you love, but if you physically do things with someone, you're, in effect, giving something away that is special (not just virginity is being addressed here). To be physical with someone is to commit to them; you aren't supposed to run away if times get rough or if you just don't "like them anymore" or wanted to move on. To choose who you want to be with isn't something you can mess around with as many times as you want. Usually those who date don't even have lasting relationships (even with marriage, the divorce rate is heightened with those who were previously together; to see that, take a look at our society here in the US...as dating has been more common, divorce has also been). Also, dating & having sex are very related, mind you. It doesn't always happen, but the chances are greater that of those who do not date, those who are willing to wait. -chuckles- You're acting as though liberalism is the savior of the world, raising it up due to its meaning of "freedom," but that's not what it's truly standing for. Yes, I am all for letting people choose what they want to do (there is not supposed to be any compulsion in our religion), but it gets ridiculous when people become obsessed with their "liberties," as if everyone will take the away. Augh. Anyhow, you cannot pick what to believe from the word of Allah...so they are not being dutiful to Him...but I will not judge since it's not my place to scrutinize. As for the being prejudiced, you can still choose to wear it, especially now, but standing up for what is right even if none will listen. I'm going to be beginning to wear the hijab very soon & I won't let humans who won't try to understand oppress me. To sum up the dating topic, to us it is very special to be with someone so we save it for marriage, one person.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:08 pm
When a man and a woman makes a dyad, Shaitan makes it Triad...
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:22 pm
im proud to say that I'm a NBSB....
No Boyfriend Since Birth! blaugh blaugh blaugh
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:01 pm
That's wonderful Aneesha! I wish I could say the same, but before I was Muslim (& knew nothing about the faith) I wasn't a very good person...Ah well, alhamdulillah that I was able to change.
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