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Repent and be saved?
  It's the right thing to do...God has his ways
  That's a load of crap....I mean really...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:34 pm


LOL your right its not just and i would throw a party if someone got rid of it xd
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:59 am


xLady Tsukiyox
Semiremis
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I don't think it's fair to any human, to be able to repent and be saved and go to heaven. Say a man has been killing women and children...doing everything you could think to them. He finally gets caught and he's dying....he repents for his sins....he goes to heaven. Now that doesn't seem right.
How about this...someone just robbed a bank, while robbing the bank they shot and killed three people. As he's dying slowly, from being shot by the police, he repents and goes to heaven. You, for example, stole a candy bar out of the store and you get hit by a car...you go to hell.

What is the line...."Repent and you shall be saved"...??? A sin is a sin, I just find repenting to be so...f**ked up.


No, not ******** up just justice at its best. Just think of how much better off we would all be if we had a justice system that with 100% accuracy could know the hearts and minds of those behind bars or of those being prosecuted for a crime.

Repentance isn't just a few empty words, it's brought on by an entire change of ones being. Wouldn't a just system or a just God take that into account?
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
That's not justice. Justice would be cutting that person's hand off.

Except repenting is just that. Empty words. If you were truly sorry you wouldn't do it in the first place neutral
I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan


but if you don't mean it then God will know it...

That's the point you all are missing. If God knows that you aren't repenting in honesty if he knows that your whole being does not mean it (which what repentance is) and if we are examining this from the Christian Theology which says that those who repent are saved then those who simply say it without meaning it are not saved.

For example, let's look at this from outside of the Christian perspective:

Scenario 1:

A. Man is a violent sadist who kills others and enjoys doing it
B. Man gets caught and is sentenced to death
c. Justice is served if he is put to death
D. Man says he sorry to try to get out of it
E. Man gets put to death so Justice can be served.


Scenario 2 :

A. Man is a violent sadist who kills others and enjoys doing it
B. Man gets caught and is sentenced to death
C. Justice is served if he is put to death
D. Medical science (far more advanced then our own) finds out a part of his brain is not working right and corrects it.
E. Man is no longer a violent sadist and is remorseful for what he has done
F. Medical science can affirm that he is a different man, a pacifist.
G. Justice is not served if a different man is punished for the crimes of the previous man.



That is the basic idea behind repentance. Would it be just to punish someone for the crimes of someone else? In your sense of justice you may feel the need for them to suffer for those crimes but is it just if they are no longer the same person who committed them? This gets into philosophy a bit but the Christian perspective on this matter very clearly takes the higher moral ground.




Some people say that Stanely Tookie Williams was a changed man. Did you all think that justice was served when he was executed?

Williams said this: "There is no part of me that existed then that exists now," Source

If that were true and if we had a way to know with 100% accuracy that that was true would it then be just to execute him? If a man fitting that description were to ask God for forgiveness and if we are to assume that he is 100% sincere and if we are to assume that God knows that he is 100% sincere would it be just for God to send him to hell?

THAT LAST QUESTION IS THE ONE WE ARE DEALING WITH AND IT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT AND ANSWER.

Semiremis


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:22 am


Like I said, what if they mean it...when you're dying your pretty much mean everything you say with all your heart.
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