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 Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:34 am
sakura646464 Bharatiyaa_ larki tassan The_Pathan It still don't sound right saying 90% of muslims are sunni. Well, i live by Muhammad (saw), and the qur'an. Which i guess shi'a does too? Yes they follow Muhammad saw's ways but not as sunnis do, the only thing that separates them from sunni is because they do mattam,(hurting themselves badly) and a few other things. Yeah.. they also don't believe in the Hadiths, and Shiites are followers of Ali while Sunnis are followers are Abu Bakr. we do believe in hadiths sad Then you are not a Shiite because Shiites reject the Hadiths.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:11 pm
Exactly.
Shia muslims do stuff like having a stone infront of them in namaz, where they hit their head.
They got this day where they hit themselves. It embrasses me that they are muslims sad
Do u know about protostants, and catholics? 2 big sects in christianity.
Catholics follow the bibble. While the protostants is a new sect which is aheistic, means god is our friend, and we are all close to god so there is no popes. Everyone comes in paradise, hell does not excist. And lots more. It's completely atheistic, and alot part of northren europe is part of it. But most of them turns into atheists.
I mean ISLAM = PERFECT!!!!!! Why not follow it 100%? The messages of Muhammad(saw) and the qur'an, will lead us forever. NO MATTER WHAT GENERATION OR TIME!
There is no need to change Islam. If u don't follow it 100%, or try to change rules, then it's huge sin!!! So i hate that stupid stuff like when the alevi's says that u must not go to mosque, cuz Muhammad's leautenant died in 1 sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:32 pm
The_Pathan Exactly. Shia muslims do stuff like having a stone infront of them in namaz, where they hit their head. They got this day where they hit themselves. It embrasses me that they are muslims sad Do u know about protostants, and catholics? 2 big sects in christianity. Catholics follow the bibble. While the protostants is a new sect which is aheistic, means god is our friend, and we are all close to god so there is no popes. Everyone comes in paradise, hell does not excist. And lots more. It's completely atheistic, and alot part of northren europe is part of it. But most of them turns into atheists. I mean ISLAM = PERFECT!!!!!! Why not follow it 100%? The messages of Muhammad(saw) and the qur'an, will lead us forever. NO MATTER WHAT GENERATION OR TIME! There is no need to change Islam. If u don't follow it 100%, or try to change rules, then it's huge sin!!! So i hate that stupid stuff like when the alevi's says that u must not go to mosque, cuz Muhammad's leautenant died in 1 sweatdrop Catholicism is weird.. its actually a pretty dark part of Christianity. Did you know that in the beginning of Catholicism that they actually believed in Black Magic?? Also they add stuff too, Zaki, therefore they don't follow the Bible 100% . And I agree with you that Islam=100% all of the answers are in front of you. If you have a question about life just go to the Quran and your answer is pretty much answered.
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:05 am
No christians follow the bibble 100%, the bibble is not right. They always change it.
lol It's so stupid. They change their book just like that. It's so funny lol
Black Magic? Cool biggrin Magic is a very interesting subject 3nodding It combines the world of jinns, with world of humans... It's just so weird.
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:41 am
The_Pathan No christians follow the bibble 100%, the bibble is not right. They always change it. lol It's so stupid. They change their book just like that. It's so funny lol Black Magic? Cool biggrin Magic is a very interesting subject 3nodding It combines the world of jinns, with world of humans... It's just so weird. I know!! Black magic is not cool.. its devil worshiping..
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:59 am
Really?
I thought it made jinns do things for u?? U give them something, they give u something wink
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:14 pm
The_Pathan Really? I thought it made jinns do things for u?? U give them something, they give u something wink lol not its not like that, doing black magic is a sin, if you are doing it for no reason or for harming, and it has not done any good to any one as far as I have heard, not you do not give and take. jinns do not like humans because we are superior then them, so they will try to scare us and make us do things that are gross so they can laugh at us...
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:36 pm
there are also some jinns that are used by humans. I don't know how it works, maybe some kind of contract (give and take) or something else. In the past where we're still made of many kingdoms, there are many blacksmith who create a somewhat unreasonably strong weapon (usually keris), which I believe they put jinn inside, as people from old times is famous with their supranatural ability, asceticism and in order to gain powers. even my grandfather used to own a keris like that. My father said he used to 'bathe' it to honor it (clean it with water that filled with flower, etc. I don' know the detail since I haven't seen it myself). One day, my grandfather stop his habit and it's said that the keris produced a strange sound every night. he said that it's angry, because once it's cleaned in the same way as before, the sound disappeared. But it's a matter of faith. Lately, he cleaned it normally, not as a ritual to honor the keris, but just to make it clean like other things. And when he finally stopped at all, there's no problem with it anymore. Just a little remainder. We human is the best, but the most flexible. We can be higher than angel, yet we can be lower than animal. Jinn, isn't too different, there are good and bad of them. They can help us, but once you get used to it and fear them, then at least you're lower than them. But if you fear only the Creator of both of human and jinn, then you're better than them.. well, at least you're not below them..^^ it's getting more and more off topic from Sunni and Shia.. I think I've seen a thread about magic or Jinn before, but I can't find it. I'll move my post if I find it..
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:37 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:47 am
Interesting Furqan wink Actually it's on islamic questions/assistance forum smile
I read about contracts. like "u do this, i do this."
I also saw something about their contarcts in The Arrivals, at youtube.
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:38 pm
tassan The_Pathan Really? I thought it made jinns do things for u?? U give them something, they give u something wink lol not its not like that, doing black magic is a sin, if you are doing it for no reason or for harming, and it has not done any good to any one as far as I have heard, not you do not give and take. jinns do not like humans because we are superior then them, so they will try to scare us and make us do things that are gross so they can laugh at us... This ^
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:56 pm
The_Pathan No, it's not 90% sunni, and 10% shi'a. Ur telling me the Alevi/Alawite, Ahmadi, and all those others does not excist? I'm none of the above, I'm in the same religion as Muhammad(saw) were. Was he shi'a? NO! Was he sunni? NO! Please correct ur info, it's a unknown thing. But most muslims are Sunni. Like 70%. But there is ALOT of Alevi and shi'a muslims. In Denmark 20% are alevi muslims, i just don't like their opinions soo much. i mean, just because Muhammads leutenant died in a mosque, they do not go into mosques stressed They got weird rules. And yeah, shi'a hit themselves, even though Islam says it's wrong... But i like muslims wether they are shia or alive, or sunni, or wutever. Cuz when they are muslims, then i'm just happy. And don't care about their opinions. May i ask then wat exactly do you believe?
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:58 pm
tassan The_Pathan It still don't sound right saying 90% of muslims are sunni. Well, i live by Muhammad (saw), and the qur'an. Which i guess shi'a does too? Yes they follow Muhammad saw's ways but not as sunnis do, the only thing that separates them from sunni is because they do mattam,(hurting themselves badly) and a few other things. Let me please clarify, Not ALL Shia's hurt them selves only a very small percentage.
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:01 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki tassan The_Pathan It still don't sound right saying 90% of muslims are sunni. Well, i live by Muhammad (saw), and the qur'an. Which i guess shi'a does too? Yes they follow Muhammad saw's ways but not as sunnis do, the only thing that separates them from sunni is because they do mattam,(hurting themselves badly) and a few other things. Yeah.. they also don't believe in the Hadiths, and Shiites are followers of Ali while Sunnis are followers are Abu Bakr. I am Shia...I have a question, How in the world are u guys followers of Abu Bakr?
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:23 am
Litsen, the diffrence between u guys and me is.
U are sunni muslims or shi'a muslims. Your god is Allah, and u believe in Allah.
But the diffrence is, i am a follower of Muhammad(saw), and i am following his religion. While u are following some Ali, or Abu Bakr, or some other ancient arab.
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