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 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:59 pm
Das Rabble Rouser Fresnel Das Rabble Rouser Requiem in Mortis Once I turn 21, I'm going to grab myself a compact .45, train on it until I'm comfortable and familiar with it, then go out and get the CCL. I remember my mom saying something about the deputy or someone saying that with the number of cops being taken off the street, he wouldn't hesitate to give one out to a person who qualified for it. I keep forgetting how recoil works but doesn't a larger cartridge in a smaller gun make the recoil worse? Also a compact .45 seems like it would have a very low capacity. My mom has a Star PD... compact .45 Auto. 6+1, and the worst recoil I've ever felt in a gun. I mean, comparing to two magnum revolver calibers, a 1911, several Glocks... the thing's ******** brutal. I can deal, and I can deal decently well, but... it kicks. It's also a jam-o-matic, but that's because the Star PD was a sub-par 1911-esque design. Real nice gun to learn your tap-rack-bang on. Hey speaking of .45 the .45 APC isn't magnum is it? On Resident Evil 4 the box of .45 magnum ammo said .45 APC in small print and I heard somewhere else in the forums that it was supposedly a magnum. I really have no idea WTF defines "magnum" (and I suspect there IS no definition), so because .45ACP doesn't call itself magnum, I'm going to go ahead and say it's not a magnum.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:03 pm
Well from what I heard magnum is described as having a larger than normal powder charge or something.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:05 pm
Das Rabble Rouser Well from what I heard magnum is described as having a larger than normal powder charge or something. Yeah, but that's the same definition as +P. You could claim it's a longer version of another cartridge, but that makes the 10mm a magnum, and it's not labled as such either, and .338 Lapua Magnum has no shorter cartridge AFAIK. I think it's just a manufacturer's title. If you want to call it a Magnum, you just do it.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:07 pm
Meh like you said the manufacturer didn't call it a magnum so I'm not.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:27 am
Das Rabble Rouser Requiem in Mortis Once I turn 21, I'm going to grab myself a compact .45, train on it until I'm comfortable and familiar with it, then go out and get the CCL. I remember my mom saying something about the deputy or someone saying that with the number of cops being taken off the street, he wouldn't hesitate to give one out to a person who qualified for it. I keep forgetting how recoil works but doesn't a larger cartridge in a smaller gun make the recoil worse? Also a compact .45 seems like it would have a very low capacity. Yeah it does. That's why you get those guns with ported barrels. Also, for the compact .45 and some Glocks, they have them in .45 GAP, a shorter .45 ACP. About the .45 Magnum, never heard anyone say it like that. But if I were to call a something a .45 Magnum, it'd definitely be a suped up, possibly longer, .45 Colt.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:40 pm
It must be nice to be able to wake up and say "you know, I think I will get my CCL." sad
Hopefully that will change for us over this weekend. Hopefully. Probably not.
EDIT: The bill is introduced on the 26th, not this weekend.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:19 pm
In Resident Evil 4 the Broken Butterfly and Killer7 both use .45 ammo, even though the two guns in real life use different versions of a .45 caliber cartridge. It's just a way to make it simpler. I think the Broken Butterfly is a Schofield Model 3 and the Killer7 is an AMT Hardballer with a really long, top-mounted laser sight. The Shofield uses .45 Long Colt and the Hardballer uses .45 ACP. So neither are actually "Magnum" even though thats the class of guns they're both under, same as the Handcannon, though that actually does use the correct .50 ammunition. If Metal Gear Solid 3's weapon expert is right, modern .45 Long Colt is about 10% more powerful than .45 ACP
Magnum is indeed about powder charges. The reason the .357 Magnum is longer than .38 Special is to keep people from loading the high-powered Magnum loads in guns that can't take the pressures, not to hold additional powder. .38 Spl +P and +P+ are just like a hot-loaded .38. Modern firearm designs can handle even more powerful loads than could be used when the .357 was introduced.
I believe the different levels of power in .38 and .357 can intertwine. For example .38 - .38 P+ - Standard .357 - .38 +P+ - Hot loaded .357 - Almost break the gun .357.
But I may be wrong on this aspect. I should look up common pressures and powder loads for these. I'm still trying to call myself a revolver expert, so I ought to know.
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