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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:23 pm
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Bushmaster ACR: With the proper kits, I'd never be out of ammo. Can't find 5.56mm? Load some .223 rounds. Wrong part of the world for that? Swap the barrel and lower receiver, load some 7.62x39mm rounds. Probably throw a M26 MASS on the bottom for CQC, breaching, etc, or an M320 with various grenade types.
M1014: All the zombie-slaying fun of a 12-gauge, now in semi-automatic. I blame L4D for this one.
USP .45 Tactical: Partly because I'm an H&K whore. If not this, then any .45 ACP that takes a suppressor. Hollow-points like the rifle.
KM2000 and Tomahawk: Both for melee, and the tomahawk as a multipurpose tool.
Explosives: Fragmentation grenades, Claymores, a few C4 charges, and some firecrackers for distraction, assuming the zombies rely on hearing. Have some way to arm and detonate the C4 charges all at once to make a suicide vest in the event of being overwhelmed.
Food and Water: The essentials. Probably MREs, First Strike Rations or similar items that are designed to last and be cooked easily. CamelBak for water, with purifying tablets to make water drinkable.
Two-Way Radio: Communications. Duh.
Survival Kit: Compass, fire-starting kit, small tent, etc. Anything I'd need to survive out in the open.
Mag-Lite: I'd probably carry a tac-light on each gun, but I'd carry this as a back-up. Also makes a great improvised melee weapon.
Body Armor: Hopefully with added protection around the arms and legs, since that's where 90% of all bites seem to happen. Doesn't have to be terribly strong, just strong enough to stop a bite and possibly small-caliber rounds.
I'm sure there's more, but I'm about to pass out so I'll think of it tomorrow.
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:47 am
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Requiem in Mortis Bushmaster ACR: With the proper kits, I'd never be out of ammo. Can't find 5.56mm? Load some .223 rounds. Wrong part of the world for that? Swap the barrel and lower receiver, load some 7.62x39mm rounds. Probably throw a M26 MASS on the bottom for CQC, breaching, etc, or an M320 with various grenade types. Any 5.56 rifle will take .223 rounds. Not the other way around. And even then, in all but the most poorly-designed cases, it'll just have the effect of shortening bolt and barrel life.
And if you're going to be carrying around a second lower and barrel, might as well carry a second firearm, or ******** it, more ammo. Not to mention that, unless you're replacing the entire upper, you'll need to rezero all the sights every time you swap the caliber.
Modularity- it's just something else to jack the price up.
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:50 am
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Pripyat Dawn Requiem in Mortis Bushmaster ACR: With the proper kits, I'd never be out of ammo. Can't find 5.56mm? Load some .223 rounds. Wrong part of the world for that? Swap the barrel and lower receiver, load some 7.62x39mm rounds. Probably throw a M26 MASS on the bottom for CQC, breaching, etc, or an M320 with various grenade types. Any 5.56 rifle will take .223 rounds. Not the other way around. And even then, in all but the most poorly-designed cases, it'll just have the effect of shortening bolt and barrel life.
And if you're going to be carrying around a second lower and barrel, might as well carry a second firearm, or ******** it, more ammo. Not to mention that, unless you're replacing the entire upper, you'll need to rezero all the sights every time you swap the caliber.
Modularity- it's just something else to jack the price up.
a pistol should be the only other caliber one should carry unless someone's got a masterkey or 203 mounted on their rifle. just ditch the whole multicaliber idea folks, switching calibers in the field just doesnt make sense.
and if someone come's up with the whole " im out of my own rounds, but found a different kind of ammo on some dead guys" 90 percent of the time the ammo you find on a body is going to have a weapon that takes it next to it.
I agree with your statement ...I'd rather be carrying more magazines for the same weapon than carry several weapons or a bunch of little parts...
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:37 am
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Pripyat Dawn Requiem in Mortis Bushmaster ACR: With the proper kits, I'd never be out of ammo. Can't find 5.56mm? Load some .223 rounds. Wrong part of the world for that? Swap the barrel and lower receiver, load some 7.62x39mm rounds. Probably throw a M26 MASS on the bottom for CQC, breaching, etc, or an M320 with various grenade types. Any 5.56 rifle will take .223 rounds. Not the other way around. And even then, in all but the most poorly-designed cases, it'll just have the effect of shortening bolt and barrel life.
And if you're going to be carrying around a second lower and barrel, might as well carry a second firearm, or ******** it, more ammo. Not to mention that, unless you're replacing the entire upper, you'll need to rezero all the sights every time you swap the caliber.
Modularity- it's just something else to jack the price up. I was quite aware that any 5.56mm gun will take .223.
I'll probably stick with the ACR, but just use 5.56mm/.223 if I'm in America or parts of the world where it's easy to obtain, and 7.62mm in other parts of the world.
Recon: I hadn't even thought of the shark suit. That might actually be a better idea. Most sharks have much stronger bites than humans, so it would certainly be effective against a zombie's bite. I'd probably still wear a light bulletproof vest over it, though, in case there are some crazy survivors with guns. Nothing fancy, just capable of stopping most pistol rounds and maybe small-caliber rifle rounds.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:34 pm
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In the interest of saving time, I'm jacking Requiem's kit and making a few mods. Sorry Requiem xp
Galil SAR 5.56, 50rd mags or whatever is biggest. No drums please. It takes common ammo and mags that NATO already uses, so logistics won't be a huge problem.
M9 9mm pistol. Again, logistics are already there. Plenty of mags and ammo. No need for a big cartridge if only headshots count anyways and .22 is just too unreliable
Mark I trench knife and Tomahawk: Both for melee, the Mk1 has a smooth edge blade, brass knuckles and a pointed nut designed to crack skulls and the tomahawk as a multipurpose tool.
Explosives: Fragmentation grenades, Claymores, a few C4 charges, and some firecrackers for distraction, assuming the zombies rely on hearing. Have some way to arm and detonate the C4 charges all at once to make a suicide vest in the event of being overwhelmed. I left this part in because of gangs/whathaveyou that might be encountered.
Food and Water: The essentials. Probably MREs, First Strike Rations or similar items that are designed to last and be cooked easily. CamelBak for water, with purifying tablets to make water drinkable.
Two-Way Radio: Communications. Duh.
Survival Kit: Compass, fire-starting kit, small tent, etc. Anything I'd need to survive out in the open.
Mag-Lite: I'd probably carry a tac-light on each gun, but I'd carry this as a back-up. Also makes a great improvised melee weapon.
Body Armor: Shark suit, coated in something to make it less noisy and a bulletproof vest. Helmet that secures to suit in some way and a good pair of gloves also secured to suit.
Assuming we work in squads, there will need to be a designated marksman of some type with a Rem 700 in 7.62x51 or .300 win mag. Quality scope and bipod are a must.
Oh yeah, a suppressor on everything possible.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:48 pm
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Recon_Ninja_985 heres something to consider...instead of using body armor that stops bullets and offers little zombie protection like some guys are posting. why not wear a full body shark suit under your clothes/gear? you know, the bite proof suit intended for divers. probably a lot lighter than .mil armor and offers way more protection... ![User Image](https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/Recon_Sniper/WTF/csuit_img01.jpg) like this, except in OD, foliage green, or very dark grey I would wear this under my BDU's (most likely 5.11 clothes) and gear rig You might wanna put some instant ice packs in that suit before putting it on because you are going to cook in that thing unless you're underwater.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:13 pm
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:59 pm
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HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 heres something to consider...instead of using body armor that stops bullets and offers little zombie protection like some guys are posting. why not wear a full body shark suit under your clothes/gear? you know, the bite proof suit intended for divers. probably a lot lighter than .mil armor and offers way more protection... ![User Image](https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/Recon_Sniper/WTF/csuit_img01.jpg) like this, except in OD, foliage green, or very dark grey I would wear this under my BDU's (most likely 5.11 clothes) and gear rig You might wanna put some instant ice packs in that suit before putting it on because you are going to cook in that thing unless you're underwater. its getting colder. i'd be more worried about freezing inside of it due to it appearing to be metallic...
already used to cooking inside acu's/IBA's and junk where rolling up sleeves is forbidden some other people on the GGE deal/ dealt with the same problem, the .mil folks out there at least.
I would imagine that a shark suit would be VERY breathing
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:13 am
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Recon_Ninja_985 HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 heres something to consider...instead of using body armor that stops bullets and offers little zombie protection like some guys are posting. why not wear a full body shark suit under your clothes/gear? you know, the bite proof suit intended for divers. probably a lot lighter than .mil armor and offers way more protection... ![User Image](https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/Recon_Sniper/WTF/csuit_img01.jpg) like this, except in OD, foliage green, or very dark grey I would wear this under my BDU's (most likely 5.11 clothes) and gear rig You might wanna put some instant ice packs in that suit before putting it on because you are going to cook in that thing unless you're underwater. its getting colder. i'd be more worried about freezing inside of it due to it appearing to be metallic... already used to cooking inside acu's/IBA's and junk where rolling up sleeves is forbidden some other people on the GGE deal/ dealt with the same problem, the .mil folks out there at least. I would imagine that a shark suit would be VERY breathing I'm pretty sure shark suits are dive suits and not just a layering suit to go over a wetsuit. I've never worn one but I can say it'd be illogical if it wasn't a dive suit on its own since moving in neopreen suits is very difficult. Adding another suit over it would make you a scarecrow underwater.
i'd imagine that shark suit would have a layer of neopreen inside to keep you warm so no worries on air temperature since wetsuits are designed for water temperature.
It's still a very good idea Recon but once you put on a snug neopreen suit that is damn near air tight you'll understand where I'm coming from on the ice pack idea.
If the gloves are too thick to fit through a trigger guard just buy a pair of metal gauntlets to fix that problem. The gauntlets would be more flexible.
That's my two cents and there you have the current champion in Zombie repellant full body armor.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:45 pm
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HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 heres something to consider...instead of using body armor that stops bullets and offers little zombie protection like some guys are posting. why not wear a full body shark suit under your clothes/gear? you know, the bite proof suit intended for divers. probably a lot lighter than .mil armor and offers way more protection... ![User Image](https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/Recon_Sniper/WTF/csuit_img01.jpg) like this, except in OD, foliage green, or very dark grey I would wear this under my BDU's (most likely 5.11 clothes) and gear rig You might wanna put some instant ice packs in that suit before putting it on because you are going to cook in that thing unless you're underwater. its getting colder. i'd be more worried about freezing inside of it due to it appearing to be metallic... already used to cooking inside acu's/IBA's and junk where rolling up sleeves is forbidden some other people on the GGE deal/ dealt with the same problem, the .mil folks out there at least. I would imagine that a shark suit would be VERY breathing I'm pretty sure shark suits are dive suits and not just a layering suit to go over a wetsuit. I've never worn one but I can say it'd be illogical if it wasn't a dive suit on its own since moving in neopreen suits is very difficult. Adding another suit over it would make you a scarecrow underwater. i'd imagine that shark suit would have a layer of neopreen inside to keep you warm so no worries on air temperature since wetsuits are designed for water temperature. It's still a very good idea Recon but once you put on a snug neopreen suit that is damn near air tight you'll understand where I'm coming from on the ice pack idea. If the gloves are too thick to fit through a trigger guard just buy a pair of metal gauntlets to fix that problem. The gauntlets would be more flexible. That's my two cents and there you have the current champion in Zombie repellant full body armor. they could always regear it a different way if its the UN that's supplying it...
another idea I have would be a carbon fiber hardsuit maybe with some other stuff at the torso for bullet protection oh, and it should have tiny slots along it so it could breathe better
just trying to find a good bite grip would be damn near impossible, and if they did, their teeth would eiter slide off it or their biting efforts would be futile
Im thinking along the lines of the area 51 game where they have the hazmat armor
surely the UN could manufacture a similar hardsuit for combating zombies if they can make it an actual sealed hazmat combat hardsuit then thats definitely a plus...beats using mopp gear in a zombie outbreak
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:38 am
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Recon_Ninja_985 HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 HelloJohnnyBlade Recon_Ninja_985 heres something to consider...instead of using body armor that stops bullets and offers little zombie protection like some guys are posting. why not wear a full body shark suit under your clothes/gear? you know, the bite proof suit intended for divers. probably a lot lighter than .mil armor and offers way more protection... ![User Image](https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/Recon_Sniper/WTF/csuit_img01.jpg) like this, except in OD, foliage green, or very dark grey I would wear this under my BDU's (most likely 5.11 clothes) and gear rig You might wanna put some instant ice packs in that suit before putting it on because you are going to cook in that thing unless you're underwater. its getting colder. i'd be more worried about freezing inside of it due to it appearing to be metallic... already used to cooking inside acu's/IBA's and junk where rolling up sleeves is forbidden some other people on the GGE deal/ dealt with the same problem, the .mil folks out there at least. I would imagine that a shark suit would be VERY breathing I'm pretty sure shark suits are dive suits and not just a layering suit to go over a wetsuit. I've never worn one but I can say it'd be illogical if it wasn't a dive suit on its own since moving in neopreen suits is very difficult. Adding another suit over it would make you a scarecrow underwater. i'd imagine that shark suit would have a layer of neopreen inside to keep you warm so no worries on air temperature since wetsuits are designed for water temperature. It's still a very good idea Recon but once you put on a snug neopreen suit that is damn near air tight you'll understand where I'm coming from on the ice pack idea. If the gloves are too thick to fit through a trigger guard just buy a pair of metal gauntlets to fix that problem. The gauntlets would be more flexible. That's my two cents and there you have the current champion in Zombie repellant full body armor. they could always regear it a different way if its the UN that's supplying it... another idea I have would be a carbon fiber hardsuit maybe with some other stuff at the torso for bullet protection oh, and it should have tiny slots along it so it could breathe better just trying to find a good bite grip would be damn near impossible, and if they did, their teeth would eiter slide off it or their biting efforts would be futile Im thinking along the lines of the area 51 game where they have the hazmat armor surely the UN could manufacture a similar hardsuit for combating zombies if they can make it an actual sealed hazmat combat hardsuit then thats definitely a plus...beats using mopp gear in a zombie outbreak *Facepalm* I completely forgot about the UN funding. The shark suit would be great in the other case of available civilian attainable gear.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:42 am
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Recon_Ninja_985 Fresnel This thread needs moar DeLisle. Quiet as a b***h and Thompson effective. Maybe loaded with some of those ProMag drums, or modified to take Glock/Kriss mags. Perfect gun for operating quietly behind enemy lines FOR QUEHN AND COUNTRAH. maybe a modern rendition of a delisle and maybe not bolt action a book I have says the most noise you hear from it is the clicking of the weapon's parts when firing put a silencer on anything that's .45acp (well except for revolvers) and youre good to go with no other concerns like switching ammunition. I like that all .45acp loads are already subsonic mrgreen Silencer 3 semi
It kinda defeats the purpose to make it semi. I might entertain a general changing of the action, though... maybe a lever? It's not a gun meant to be fired prone, so that might work, but I don't think that's quicker than an Enfield action. Enfield is a long-action bolt that cocks on closing (and after seeing how simple that is, I have no idea why it's done any other way), so there's no real effort put into working the bolt. You get the whole forward throw behind cocking. You only fight the spring for maybe the last 1/4".
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