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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:28 pm
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This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Well I'd never buy a G3 ever nor would I make it a PDW. I was just bouncing the idea of a super compact battle rifle for a character I'm still developing. I think my mind's made up on that.

Still looking into a DMR for another character and since I read the review that the HK417 didn't make the cut for the Bundeswehr as a DMR, I've scrapped that. I've scrapped the M1A as well since tactical funishing used on the shorter SOCOM-16 is hard to come by in the full size 22" barrel models.
SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?

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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:30 pm
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SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?

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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.
They've got one of those, too. Shot an AC556 in one like that, too. Pretty nice, I've gotta say.

Still, I like it skeletal and aluminum.  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:31 pm
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This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Well I'd never buy a G3 ever nor would I make it a PDW. I was just bouncing the idea of a super compact battle rifle for a character I'm still developing. I think my mind's made up on that.

Still looking into a DMR for another character and since I read the review that the HK417 didn't make the cut for the Bundeswehr as a DMR, I've scrapped that. I've scrapped the M1A as well since tactical funishing used on the shorter SOCOM-16 is hard to come by in the full size 22" barrel models.
SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?
That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
My bad and I agree that's a damn sleek set up.

The only problem I have with the set up is it leaves a good few inches exposed on the full sized M1As unless of course this is just sawed down and shaped to fit this Socom 16.
Nah, that's the size of the stock. It's that short to allow access to the gas tube. I'm not familiar enough with the M1A to know WHY you'd need to access the gas tube, but I'm sure that's the reason. Another few inches of barrel sticking out isn't a bad thing, though.  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:31 pm
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"HK 51: The HK51 is not made by HK, instead being a creation of the American custom after-market. The HK 51 has no real standards but is usually a cut down and modified G3A3 or its semi-automatic clones the HK41 and HK91 and modified to take MP5 furniture and accessories. It is usually fitted with a collapsible stock"
basically what they're saying is that HK doesnt make them like that from the factory. but they can be made out of HK guns or it's copies.
I figured as much. Still...cut down battle rifle makes a badass PDW.
It's an MP5 in .308. KILL 'EM WITH THE BULLET OR KILL 'EM WITH THE MUZZLE FLASH, AIN'T NO DIFF'RENCE TO ME.
In a world where compromise is all around us. Some people load their bullets in backwards but I carry a flamethrower that spews super velocity glimpses of lead that I can barely control because I think I'm Duke Nukem.
This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....
Nah, the bolt-action kills follow-up time. xd  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:32 pm
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"HK 51: The HK51 is not made by HK, instead being a creation of the American custom after-market. The HK 51 has no real standards but is usually a cut down and modified G3A3 or its semi-automatic clones the HK41 and HK91 and modified to take MP5 furniture and accessories. It is usually fitted with a collapsible stock"
basically what they're saying is that HK doesnt make them like that from the factory. but they can be made out of HK guns or it's copies.
I figured as much. Still...cut down battle rifle makes a badass PDW.
It's an MP5 in .308. KILL 'EM WITH THE BULLET OR KILL 'EM WITH THE MUZZLE FLASH, AIN'T NO DIFF'RENCE TO ME.
In a world where compromise is all around us. Some people load their bullets in backwards but I carry a flamethrower that spews super velocity glimpses of lead that I can barely control because I think I'm Duke Nukem.
This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:36 pm
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SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?

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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.
They've got one of those, too. Shot an AC556 in one like that, too. Pretty nice, I've gotta say.

Still, I like it skeletal and aluminum.
AC556s have issues with their barrels becoming smoothbore after a few magazines worth of automatic fire. Nice assault rifles to hide under a trench coat while robbing a bank but very poor when compared to other assault rifles.

I'm a fan of solid looking set ups.  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:37 pm
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SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?
That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
My bad and I agree that's a damn sleek set up.

The only problem I have with the set up is it leaves a good few inches exposed on the full sized M1As unless of course this is just sawed down and shaped to fit this Socom 16.
Nah, that's the size of the stock. It's that short to allow access to the gas tube. I'm not familiar enough with the M1A to know WHY you'd need to access the gas tube, but I'm sure that's the reason. Another few inches of barrel sticking out isn't a bad thing, though.
Cleaning, mostly.  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:37 pm
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It's an MP5 in .308. KILL 'EM WITH THE BULLET OR KILL 'EM WITH THE MUZZLE FLASH, AIN'T NO DIFF'RENCE TO ME.
In a world where compromise is all around us. Some people load their bullets in backwards but I carry a flamethrower that spews super velocity glimpses of lead that I can barely control because I think I'm Duke Nukem.
This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....
Nah, the bolt-action kills follow-up time. xd
what? cleverly design of soviet rimmed cartridge explosion fart toward muzzle the bullet into enemy coupled with dragon flames at same time not enough for follow up?  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:38 pm
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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.
They've got one of those, too. Shot an AC556 in one like that, too. Pretty nice, I've gotta say.

Still, I like it skeletal and aluminum.
AC556s have issues with their barrels becoming smoothbore after a few magazines worth of automatic fire. Nice assault rifles to hide under a trench coat while robbing a bank but very poor when compared to other assault rifles.

I'm a fan of solid looking set ups.
Maybe. But .22 conversions mean endless fun at the range. And the core to the original Morita.

I don't care what it looks like, it's a solid setup.  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:38 pm
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SCAR-17LB with a 20" barrel? J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 stock on an M1A? FAL? SR-25? There's actually a lot of rifles that fit those descriptions, any one of which I wouldn't kick out of bed. mrgreen
FAL has a range worse than an M16.

The SCAR I'm using for a different set of characters.

SR-25 is more of a sit down sniper sort of weapon.

What about that SOCOM 16 you showed in the Best Zombie Weapon thread? Given a good optics system you think this thing could have comparable effective range to the full size 22" barrelled M1A?
That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
My bad and I agree that's a damn sleek set up.

The only problem I have with the set up is it leaves a good few inches exposed on the full sized M1As unless of course this is just sawed down and shaped to fit this Socom 16.
Nah, that's the size of the stock. It's that short to allow access to the gas tube. I'm not familiar enough with the M1A to know WHY you'd need to access the gas tube, but I'm sure that's the reason. Another few inches of barrel sticking out isn't a bad thing, though.
Socom 16 with a JAE-100 set up it is then. I'll put that right alongside the Tanfoglio Force.  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:41 pm
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It's an MP5 in .308. KILL 'EM WITH THE BULLET OR KILL 'EM WITH THE MUZZLE FLASH, AIN'T NO DIFF'RENCE TO ME.
In a world where compromise is all around us. Some people load their bullets in backwards but I carry a flamethrower that spews super velocity glimpses of lead that I can barely control because I think I'm Duke Nukem.
This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....
Nah, the bolt-action kills follow-up time. xd
what? cleverly design of soviet rimmed cartridge explosion fart toward muzzle the bullet into enemy coupled with dragon flames at same time not enough for follow up?
Umm... the PSL fires the same cartridge. It's just semi-auto.  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:43 pm
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This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....
Nah, the bolt-action kills follow-up time. xd
what? cleverly design of soviet rimmed cartridge explosion fart toward muzzle the bullet into enemy coupled with dragon flames at same time not enough for follow up?
Umm... the PSL fires the same cartridge. It's just semi-auto.
only if we can get it to work with an 8 inch barrel. it would be our WTF weapon.  

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:48 pm
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This can only be trumped with a PSL SBR.
Nyet comrade, scaled down Mosins are the ONLY way....
Nah, the bolt-action kills follow-up time. xd
what? cleverly design of soviet rimmed cartridge explosion fart toward muzzle the bullet into enemy coupled with dragon flames at same time not enough for follow up?
Umm... the PSL fires the same cartridge. It's just semi-auto.
only if we can get it to work with an 8 inch barrel. it would be our WTF weapon.
Convert it to fire in blowback.  
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:59 am
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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.
They've got one of those, too. Shot an AC556 in one like that, too. Pretty nice, I've gotta say.

Still, I like it skeletal and aluminum.
AC556s have issues with their barrels becoming smoothbore after a few magazines worth of automatic fire. Nice assault rifles to hide under a trench coat while robbing a bank but very poor when compared to other assault rifles.

I'm a fan of solid looking set ups.
barrels are expendable, receivers are forever.... if you're worried about it, just replace the pencil barrel with a heavy barrel. they accept mini 14 parts so they are not hard to come by  

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:01 am
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That's the JAE-100 stock. Any M1A will fit in it, and there's also available side panels for rails on the fore-end. I hope to get one someday with a 20-22" barrel on it, but it's another $1000 on TOP of the rifle. Sexy ********, though.
That, and the weight, have steered me to a Sage EBR stock.
Meh. Sage looks like something I'd find on a Ruger Mini-14.
They've got one of those, too. Shot an AC556 in one like that, too. Pretty nice, I've gotta say.

Still, I like it skeletal and aluminum.
AC556s have issues with their barrels becoming smoothbore after a few magazines worth of automatic fire. Nice assault rifles to hide under a trench coat while robbing a bank but very poor when compared to other assault rifles.

I'm a fan of solid looking set ups.
barrels are expendable, receivers are forever.... if you're worried about it, just replace the pencil barrel with a heavy barrel. they accept mini 14 parts so they are not hard to come by
I'm not robbing a bank.  
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