New "American Council of Witches"

[X-Yami-no-Ko-X]

Katefox Tarnagona

X-Yami-no-Ko-X

Katefox Tarnagona

Well, apparently their Facebook page no longer exists. Take that as you will.

Its still up. I'm on it right now.
Is it possible you're not logged in? I had to log in to see it.

Weird, because every link I follow (the one in this thread, and the one at The Wild Hunt) just drops me at the Facebook main page, and I'm logged in, so that's not it.

Weird because I haven't been having issues getting to it.  

[too2sweet]

It's still up for me as well.  

[Kelsey MacAilbert]

I haven't heard much about this organization. May I please get the beginner's version?  

[X-Yami-no-Ko-X]

The Emo Bard

I haven't heard much about this organization. May I please get the beginner's version?

The jist of it is the first American Council of Witches sat down and wrote what it means to been "Wiccan". Its the stuff you'll see in a Silver Ravenwolf book. The 13 beliefs all witches share.  

[Ren Tohimaru]

Lol another religious body to tell people how to worship? Why can't we decide the "how" by ourselves?  

[X-Yami-no-Ko-X]

Vagabond8

Lol another religious body to tell people how to worship? Why can't we decide the "how" by ourselves?

I'm the devout. Praying just to get the blood out. Bound by this flesh I own.


Probably because to be a part of some religions you have to have the right practice to be a part of that religion?


I'm the devout. Cutting just to get the blood out. Desecrate 'til we die alone.

 

[Kelsey MacAilbert]

Vagabond8

Lol another religious body to tell people how to worship? Why can't we decide the "how" by ourselves?

Because then we get lots of fluff bunnies.  

[Morgandria]

'Fluffy Bunny' really only indicates that someone is willfully ignorant. It is possible for religious organizations to be equally as 'fluffy bunny' as individual practitioners.

For example, I consider this entire 'Council' thing an exercise in willful ignorance. The original group ignored the facts about the nature and focus of Wicca completely, and made it seem as if all things witchcraft were Wicca, which is not the case. The new one also conveniently ignores the reality of Wicca's actual nature, and continues to propagate the misinformation that there's such a thing as solitary Wicca, and that valid traditions exist outside the BTW traditions. It also seems comfortable with continue making it seem as if witchcraft is the pursuit of Pagan religions only, and that it is inherently religious in nature.

I have no problem leaving people alone - provided what they do isn't misappropriated, disrespectful to the culture it comes from, or done improperly.  

[Ren Tohimaru]

X-Yami-no-Ko-X

Vagabond8

Lol another religious body to tell people how to worship? Why can't we decide the "how" by ourselves?

I'm the devout. Praying just to get the blood out. Bound by this flesh I own.


Probably because to be a part of some religions you have to have the right practice to be a part of that religion?


I'm the devout. Cutting just to get the blood out. Desecrate 'til we die alone.

But Wicca was never much for dogma...that's what made it appealing to me in the first place. sad  

[Sanguina Cruenta]

Vagabond8

But Wicca was never much for dogma...that's what made it appealing to me in the first place. sad

Dogma? Well, no - but there are specific things that are taught, and in specific ways. What you do, and the way in which it's done, is very specific. Change something enough and it's no longer Wicca.  

[Ren Tohimaru]

Sanguina Cruenta

Vagabond8

But Wicca was never much for dogma...that's what made it appealing to me in the first place. sad

Dogma? Well, no - but there are specific things that are taught, and in specific ways. What you do, and the way in which it's done, is very specific. Change something enough and it's no longer Wicca.

I know, but wicca was always very fluid-it's why ecclectic practicioners could do so much differently.  

[Sanguina Cruenta]

Vagabond8

Sanguina Cruenta

Vagabond8

But Wicca was never much for dogma...that's what made it appealing to me in the first place. sad

Dogma? Well, no - but there are specific things that are taught, and in specific ways. What you do, and the way in which it's done, is very specific. Change something enough and it's no longer Wicca.

I know, but wicca was always very fluid-it's why ecclectic practicioners could do so much differently.

Wicca's not fluid. It's very structured, and you cannot be an eclectic practitioner of Wicca.

You should read the first few posts of this thread for some more info.  

[Kelsey MacAilbert]

Vagabond8

Sanguina Cruenta

Vagabond8

But Wicca was never much for dogma...that's what made it appealing to me in the first place. sad

Dogma? Well, no - but there are specific things that are taught, and in specific ways. What you do, and the way in which it's done, is very specific. Change something enough and it's no longer Wicca.

I know, but wicca was always very fluid-it's why ecclectic practicioners could do so much differently.

With all due respect, I'd advise you not to say that. I thought that about 4 years ago, and I got RIPPED UP in the M&R subforum. Not all Pagans will go thermonuclear about this, but there are some that HATE it when people say it isn't heavily structured (it is) or that Wiccans can be eclectic (they can't).  

[X-Yami-no-Ko-X]

The Emo Bard

With all due respect, I'd advise you not to say that. I thought that about 4 years ago, and I got RIPPED UP in the M&R subforum. Not all Pagans will go thermonuclear about this, but there are some that HATE it when people say it isn't heavily structured (it is) or that Wiccans can be eclectic (they can't).

That's why Sang linked him to the thread on Wicca so he could learn.  

[Ren Tohimaru]

Lol I've learned at least most of the ins and outs of wicca-I'm sure I get the picture.