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Harimad-Sol Lin

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:57 pm
I automatically took the meaning to be the same as Mammon - it is deceptive because it was easier than expected. I asked my coworker what he thought the meaning was and he agreed with Mammon's friend. I then looked up 'deceptively' on www.dictionary.com and there was a usage note taken from American Heritage Dictionary. It said:
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When deceptively is used to modify an adjective, the meaning is often unclear. Does the sentence "The pool is deceptively shallow" mean that the pool is shallower or deeper than it appears? When the Usage Panel was asked to decide, 50 percent thought the pool shallower than it appears, 32 percent thought it deeper than it appears, and 18 percent said it was impossible to judge. Thus a warning notice worded in such a way would be misinterpreted by many of the people who read it, and others would be uncertain as to which sense was intended. Where the context does not make the meaning of deceptively clear, the sentence should be rewritten, as in The pool is shallower than it looks or The pool is shallow, despite its appearance.


The interesting thing is, when I asked him to interpret this phrase (The pool is deceptively shallow), he chose the opposite meaning (than what he had previously chosen) for deceptively, saying that it meant that it was shallower than what it seems. I also chose the opposite meaning, saying that it meant that it was deeper than it appears.

I just thought it was interesting that we both chose the opposite meaning when interpreting the two different sentences and neither one of us were consistent in our interpretations.  
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:43 pm
Well, you how the English language is... So tricky with all of its idioms and colloquial expressions.  

Aerin-Sol9


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:30 pm
Context, people. English (and its dialects!) all use idioms that make almost no sense when applied literally. For example:

"I'm hungry."

"Well hello, Hungry, my name's Bob."

Idioms mean what you think they mean. That's all there is to it. So, I agree with your interpretation of "deceptively easy," which implies that it was easy, but looked difficult.

Has anyone ever noticed that when idioms are translated into other languages, people tend to stare? When KFC translated "Finger lickin' good" into Chinese, it literally said, "Eat your fingers off." Not really on topic, but hilarious nonetheless. I digress.  
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