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(LD)Croaks

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:14 am


grandmastawong
I agree with your point about learning Chinese is more useful, but Japanese just sounds better to my ears. So I guess it's just a matter of preference.

They are very much alike you know, Japan was a colony of China. The languages are different, yes, but are fundamentally similar. You write down a sentence in Chinese and then write the same thing in Japanese. You'll see.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:15 am


Croaks, That only works when you use Simplified Chinese and the Chinese character set for Japanese. Japan's phonetic alphabets are very different from Chinese. Now, Koreans consider those who know the Kana to be highly intelligent. Apparently it is taught only in higher level academics in Korea.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:54 am


I believe that the Japanese phonetics system has far more in common with Korean than with Chinese. The method of writing came from China, however, but the languages aren't otherwise similar at all.

Soshite, atashi wa sannen ni nihongo benkyo shimashita. xd

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:12 pm


(LD)Croaks
I'd think it would be a much better choice to learn Chinese, you know the whole emerging market and stuff?


The problem with Chinese is choosing which dialect to speak. There are so many that if you learn Mandarin, you might not be able to communicate with all of China. At least Japanese seems to be standard.

My 2 cents.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:22 pm


(LD)Croaks
grandmastawong
I agree with your point about learning Chinese is more useful, but Japanese just sounds better to my ears. So I guess it's just a matter of preference.

They are very much alike you know, Japan was a colony of China. The languages are different, yes, but are fundamentally similar. You write down a sentence in Chinese and then write the same thing in Japanese. You'll see.


Incorrect. The ideographs are the same, but Japanese also introduces two new syllabaries.

@Knit: Mandarin is considered "proper" Chinese. Also, if you learn to write in Chinese, you can communicate with anyone. The only differences between dialects is how the symbols are pronounced.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:50 pm


For those people who don't see the point in learniong Japanese I have a reason beause I speak it daily and so does everyone around me! I did live in Japan before I started world traveling and other fun stuff I do now I might be getting a job in Japan when I go back to Sakata (well more of if I go back to Sakata) I find traveling a lot of fun but I miss home!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:59 pm


I try to learn as many languages as I can. I'm in the Army and once they start throwing me around, I'd like to be able to communicate with the people around me. Granted, the fact that I work on Attack Helicopters is beside the point. (Some of the damn manuals are in Japanese)

I know Deutsche, Nihon-go (chotto), Français, Bokmol, and quite a few others. Given that, it is probably surprsing that as an American living in the South, I do not speak Spanish. Nor do I have the desire to.

Ah, well. I'm still working on my language skills in Arabic, so if anyone wants to give me a hand, feel free to PM me.

-PFC Smith (FWIW), U.S. Army
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:50 am


I only know 3 words.And I don't even know how to spell it.But I do like calling my friend a Baka and watch him think it's something good,go up to our Japanese speaking teacher,and call him a Baka.He got detention that way.It was funny.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:30 pm


I know a few phrases, but not enough to survive in Japan without a translator.

On a semi-unrelated note, does anyone else find the constant use of "kawaii" (Japanese for "cute") extremely irksome? If you look at just about any chibi drawing posted anywhere you will almost certainly see a comment saying, "OMG! That's so kawaii!"

It's like it's the only word in Japanese they know and make up for it by using it over and over and over and over and over and over again! scream


Edit: I just searched "kawaii" on DeviantART and got almost 50,000 results. mad
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:20 pm


vic48
I only know 3 words.And I don't even know how to spell it.But I do like calling my friend a Baka and watch him think it's something good,go up to our Japanese speaking teacher,and call him a Baka.He got detention that way.It was funny.

why is calling some one a jacka$$ funny?

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DemonessRose

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:08 pm


Yes= Hai or Ee
No= Iie
Thank you= Domo arigato
Thank you very much= Domo arigato, gozaimasu
Good morning= Ohayo
Good afternoon= Konnichiwa
Good evening= Konbanwa
Good night= Oyasuminasai

etc... The language becomes easy after a while... wink
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:16 pm


I speak Japanese because I used to work there, but my writing isn't up to much. It's an easy language to communicate conversationally in. I was usually able to get most everyday things done without much trouble. Where I lived was waaaay out in the sticks in the west of Japan, and people were usually surprised enough to see a foreigner, let alone one who could speak Japanese.

As far as how to learn Japanese goes, it's really best to get hold of some study materials, or if you can, go to classes. Listening to Japanese-language materials (tv shows, anime) is good for helping with your pronounciation, though.

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Hilarious Raccoon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:37 am


I think it would be easier for non native speakers to hear it spoken because the sounds aren't the same as in English!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:20 am


Minna, ginkou wa doku desu ka?

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ririnyan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:57 am


Zareidriel
Minna, ginkou wa doku desu ka?


Asoko desu! *points*
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