Crowds of Coruscant

[elvisnake]

Yes, right away.
*Checks it out*
Wow, that's pretty awesome. Stupid Durga the Stupid Hutt.  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

Crix Madine was just another Rebel hero to anyone else.

To us, he's like Chuck Noriss.  

[elvisnake]

Why is that, exactly? He looks like chuck noris, but is there any connection other than that? Not that I have any problem with him being like Chuck or anything.  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

Nah, just some tradition Cale started.  

[elvisnake]

Ok. I'm cool with that.  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

So, let's talk about droid rights.

Are droids intelligent enough to be considered sentient?  

[Nelowulf]

FrozenPhoenix32

So, let's talk about droid rights.

Are droids intelligent enough to be considered sentient?

intelligence isn't what determines sentinency.

I believe, and I'm not entirely sure, but I believe a sentinent creature must:

1) Be able to communicate in some fashion to other members of its species in a decipherable tone.

2) Must be able to tell the difference between reality and dream phase. (why dogs aren't sentinent)

3) Must be able to recognize the idea of death, and must also contain a will to halt death by all means necessary. (survival instinct)


the third is the kicker on droids. Provided that the rules stated are in fact, the actual conditions.  

[AFK Masturbating]

FrozenPhoenix32

So, let's talk about droid rights.

Are droids intelligent enough to be considered sentient?

Artoo, Threepio and Rusty seems to point to "yes".  

[Aanika_Phaeton]

Nelowulf

intelligence isn't what determines sentinency.

I believe, and I'm not entirely sure, but I believe a sentinent creature must:

1) Be able to communicate in some fashion to other members of its species in a decipherable tone.

2) Must be able to tell the difference between reality and dream phase. (why dogs aren't sentinent)

3) Must be able to recognize the idea of death, and must also contain a will to halt death by all means necessary. (survival instinct)


the third is the kicker on droids. Provided that the rules stated are in fact, the actual conditions.

Okay, okay.

1) Yes, of course. Threepio can speak over 6 million forms of communication (I believe?)

2) Well in Episode 2 after Geonosis didn't he say he'd just had the "strangest dream". Sidenote: I know some humans who uh...can't do this...

3) Droids can definately recognize when someone's dead vs. when they're alive. And I believe that if they really wanted to, some droids can duck or run away. But if you mean "halt death" as in preventing other people from dying, most definately! Artoo has saved the lives of many many people! (and in a few cases, he's saved Threepio).

My #2 reason can be interpreted either way....

So, FP? Yes. I believe some droids can be sentient. cool  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

I guess that's what distinguishes between the different classes of droids.

Like the class system, obviously a pit droid and a 3P0 are in different classes.

So now, is droid labor inhumane?  

[Aanika_Phaeton]

Haha...inhumane?

That's what a mojority of them were programmed for, right?

What else are we going to do with them? lol  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

Maybe so. But if they can think freely, then is it wrong to force them to work?  

[Aanika_Phaeton]

Well, I suppose if they don't want to work, then yes it's probably considered wrong.

But if I wanted a droid for the sole purpose to work, then I probably wouldn't make it be able to think freely.  

[FrozenPhoenix32]

Good point.  

[elvisnake]

Inhumane? No. In-droid-mane? Maybe, present your case.