in defence of the flamethrower.

[Die Wahrheit]

Fresnel

Battlefield Reaper

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Fresnel

Stoic Socialist

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but that works under the assumption that there will be firearms to find.
guns WILL be the first things to be looted/bought in a class 3 or 4 outbreak (were all gonna die type)
so getting one will be much, much harder than finding a fire extinguisher.
flames also do not require a headshot to be lethal, can stay burning for a few seconds, and have a large area of fire.
again flamethrowers were never meant to be used nearby important structures or buildings, what they should be used for dispatching is extremely large, fairly closely grouped zombies
in unimportant areas when ammo, guns, or trained soldiers are scarce.

Well, I guess I'd just like something usefull, and able to be used to take game... and be used anywhere I want.

The only use I really see for a flamethrower is if the zombie requires full immolation in order to stop it from harming you. Otherwise, the cons outweigh the pros.

let us not forget that some headshots will not destroy the brain, while fire is garunteed to.

What guarantee?
Fire has to burn through eerything else first, then the skin, and skull...
If it reaches that point, it has to be fueled. Then maybe reach the brain. neutral

Also, with the whole 'super soaker' s**t, what are you going to use for fuel?

Gas, petrol, carosine and I'm sure many other resources will be taken by looters, or people trying to flee from the horde.
And things like WD40 would be hard to find and eve more dangerous to extract liquid from gonk

Paint thinner, methanol, everclear... they'll all do fine.

Super Soaker flamethrowers only create something close two-foot blast. Meaning, it can barely set something on fire, and if you're in range you're pretty much already dead. Or so I see from experience... maybe I'm wrong.  

[Fresnel]

Lt Haverson

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Battlefield Reaper

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Fresnel

The only use I really see for a flamethrower is if the zombie requires full immolation in order to stop it from harming you. Otherwise, the cons outweigh the pros.

let us not forget that some headshots will not destroy the brain, while fire is garunteed to.

What guarantee?
Fire has to burn through eerything else first, then the skin, and skull...
If it reaches that point, it has to be fueled. Then maybe reach the brain. neutral

Also, with the whole 'super soaker' s**t, what are you going to use for fuel?

Gas, petrol, carosine and I'm sure many other resources will be taken by looters, or people trying to flee from the horde.
And things like WD40 would be hard to find and eve more dangerous to extract liquid from gonk

Paint thinner, methanol, everclear... they'll all do fine.

Super Soaker flamethrowers only create something close two-foot blast. Meaning, it can barely set something on fire, and if you're in range you're pretty much already dead. Or so I see from experience... maybe I'm wrong.

I've seen 40-footers made out of fire extinguishers, but even that's too close for me. That, and you'd end up looking like whatsisface from No Country for Old Men.
 

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Lt Haverson

Fresnel

Battlefield Reaper

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Fresnel

The only use I really see for a flamethrower is if the zombie requires full immolation in order to stop it from harming you. Otherwise, the cons outweigh the pros.

let us not forget that some headshots will not destroy the brain, while fire is garunteed to.

What guarantee?
Fire has to burn through eerything else first, then the skin, and skull...
If it reaches that point, it has to be fueled. Then maybe reach the brain. neutral

Also, with the whole 'super soaker' s**t, what are you going to use for fuel?

Gas, petrol, carosine and I'm sure many other resources will be taken by looters, or people trying to flee from the horde.
And things like WD40 would be hard to find and eve more dangerous to extract liquid from gonk

Paint thinner, methanol, everclear... they'll all do fine.

Super Soaker flamethrowers only create something close two-foot blast. Meaning, it can barely set something on fire, and if you're in range you're pretty much already dead. Or so I see from experience... maybe I'm wrong.

the distance depends on the pressure of the gun and how much its pumped.
fire extinguisher flamer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNu0sR89_BM&feature=related  

[lazycommie]

Like any tool, they have their use.

I wouldn't want to carry a flamethrower, but mounting one on a truck would be a good way to take out a lot of them after luring them to a location with a decoy.

It would also be useful for dealing with raiders and other non-zombie threats.

It has it's place. Not as a bug out weapon, but rather as a means to secure a large area.



If I was going to build a man-portable flame thrower(and I am), I'd avoid a supersoaker and hit the nearest home depot. There's everything there that I'd need to build a flamethrower of any size and design I could want. From vehicle mounted ones that use pumps to tiny ones that use propane to force the liquid out, to "offensive flamethrowers"(a flamethrower that uses no liquid, just a flaming gas, for clearing out a dark hallway or room of possible non-zombie threats).  

[shadowmancer101]

If you want the power of a flame thrower but not the wieght and whatnot, molotoves are easy to make and quite useful if you lack incidneary grenades.  

[Man of the Demoneye]

I'd say that slowly burning to death while being eaten is not a nice way to go.  

[OberFeldwebel]

Actually, burning zombies might make you hungry. So maybe that's a minus?  

[Wiggie]

I don't even think a flame thrower is reliable because well, it only burns them and zombies don't even feel pain so it might not even stop them unless somehow it burns them so much they fall to the ground from the legs turning into coal and breaking, also I believe making you hungry because of the smell of cooked flesh is a bad thing  

[Wiggie]

shadowmancer101

If you want the power of a flame thrower but not the wieght and whatnot, molotoves are easy to make and quite useful if you lack incidneary grenades.

but it still wouldn't kill them it would just make the air smell like you're cooking with liquor and then you get all hungry and stuff like in "Andys lost tape" video on youtube it just makes u ******** hungry and it then smells like beef jerky or something  

[OberFeldwebel]

Wiggie

shadowmancer101

If you want the power of a flame thrower but not the wieght and whatnot, molotoves are easy to make and quite useful if you lack incidneary grenades.

but it still wouldn't kill them it would just make the air smell like you're cooking with liquor and then you get all hungry and stuff like in "Andys lost tape" video on youtube it just makes u ******** hungry and it then smells like beef jerky or something

I believe his exact line was, "Smells like Jimmy Dean."  

[Wiggie]

OberFeldwebel

Wiggie

shadowmancer101

If you want the power of a flame thrower but not the wieght and whatnot, molotoves are easy to make and quite useful if you lack incidneary grenades.

but it still wouldn't kill them it would just make the air smell like you're cooking with liquor and then you get all hungry and stuff like in "Andys lost tape" video on youtube it just makes u ******** hungry and it then smells like beef jerky or something

I believe his exact line was, "Smells like Jimmy Dean."

ya it was freaking funny but its still true, it smells like breakfast! delicious delicious I'm normal!!!  

[Wiggie]

Fresnel

Lt Haverson

Fresnel

Battlefield Reaper

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Fresnel

The only use I really see for a flamethrower is if the zombie requires full immolation in order to stop it from harming you. Otherwise, the cons outweigh the pros.

let us not forget that some headshots will not destroy the brain, while fire is garunteed to.

What guarantee?
Fire has to burn through eerything else first, then the skin, and skull...
If it reaches that point, it has to be fueled. Then maybe reach the brain. neutral

Also, with the whole 'super soaker' s**t, what are you going to use for fuel?

Gas, petrol, carosine and I'm sure many other resources will be taken by looters, or people trying to flee from the horde.
And things like WD40 would be hard to find and eve more dangerous to extract liquid from gonk

Paint thinner, methanol, everclear... they'll all do fine.

Super Soaker flamethrowers only create something close two-foot blast. Meaning, it can barely set something on fire, and if you're in range you're pretty much already dead. Or so I see from experience... maybe I'm wrong.

I've seen 40-footers made out of fire extinguishers, but even that's too close for me. That, and you'd end up looking like whatsisface from No Country for Old Men.

the guy in the picture looks like the guy from the skittles guy when they did the skittles smoothie commercial  

[Inquisitor Brock]

Wiggie

I don't even think a flame thrower is reliable because well, it only burns them and zombies don't even feel pain so it might not even stop them unless somehow it burns them so much they fall to the ground from the legs turning into coal and breaking, also I believe making you hungry because of the smell of cooked flesh is a bad thing

Fire utterly destroys all forms of infection, heat is the ultimate killer of bugs and virus. So, you get a pile of bodies, and you torch the ********. Or, if you've got them in a ditch, torch them where they can't leave. Or, in a deserted area.  

[SharkieDraws]

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Battlefield Reaper

WARNING:

DO NOT, under any circumstances, use fire on a member of the undead horde.
While having a zombie chase you, trying to devour your head, the only worse thing is...

When a zombie DOESN'T DIE, IS ON FIRE, AND IS TRYING TO DEVOUR YOUR HEAD.
Neither Shock, nor awe effects zombies.
Trauma is laughable to a horde.
Setting them on fire will kill them...EVENTUALLY (possibly 30- 60 mins)
Their skin and blood no longer matters.
UNTIL the fire reaches either their muscles enough to disable all of their limbs, reaches the brain, or spine, THEY WILL NOT DIE.

That is all...have a nice day biggrin

right, but i dont see how a burning zombie is more dangerous than a normal one, as if your infected at all your pretty much dead.
also do you really think it would take 30 minutes to affect a zombie to the point of incapacitating it?
also, zombies are slow, why not simply ignite a zombie, flee, and wait?
burn zombies, find next group, ignite until there are no more zombies, wait 30 minutes/clean up the last batch with guns.

Well the disadvantage is, the scenario of being surrounded.

If you're surrounded by, let's say, forty zombies converging upon you and your group on all sides, and all you guys have are modified supersoaker flamethrowers, sure, you can try setting those zombies on fire. But you yourself are gonna be guaranteed a pretty toasty doom as well.

Now if you're just surrounded by five zombies converging on you from all sides, and you have the same weapon, and you set them on fire, you're still going to be creating a wall of flaming zombies from which you will STILL be guaranteed a pretty toasty doom. But if you have a sidearm in this scenario, instead of using a flamethrower, you can easily take out one or two of them on one side and run for that opening.